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How the game is broken - Joker

Discussion in 'Wild West' started by iMingo, Sep 16, 2016.

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  1. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    As you can see, 18kss wants to hold us down by promoting new sheriffs, I'm fine with that idea, but he's been too over it, its been way past the limit of the game.
    As you can see in the first picture, its a balance, bandits one side, sheriffs one side, noobs under, in the past, we were heavier than the sheriff side, we are trying to make the sheriffs come after us so they will leave the noobs alone, it worked, the server was growing, everything was fine, until 18kss promoted 9 new cops to play against us, in the past, pretty much he loses every fight, and we go rogue to make them come for us, my idea is to keep the noobs safe, so they can have fun, but 18kss is not smart enough to get that idea, in his opinion, he wants the game to be balanced, which means he wants his side to be stronger cause they are set to stop illegal activities, but too bad, he doesnt see the problem with "winning" his side is too big, 6v4 they won we lost, not big of a lost, but in the end he says "thats how it should be done" well, he got what he wanted, enough force to "win" but too bad I'm not dumb like him, you can see my plans below, i jump off the balance, because its a balance, my side will be 0 weight, his side is very heavy, the result? the balance will break, his side is gonna fall down to the noobs, because its too heavy, the noobs are gonna get instant killed without knowing whats going on, well, you lost your seed lvl players, without seeds, no grass will grow, and you want a grassland? all you get is a wasteland.
    The second picture shows how the game is broken, for example, TheBends checks shrooms base, the he goes to poppy, coco, tobacco, wg, then head to his sheriff station, then do it all over again, this might take up to 30 minutes, seems no problem right? too bad, heres the problem, when he checked shrooms and head to poppy, the second sheriff is gonna check shrooms right after, then head to poppy right after TheBends checked it, then the 3rd sheriff is gonna check shrooms, right after the 2nd one left, because there is so many cops, the time between its gonna be around 2 minutes, tiny more or less. How is a noob gonna process things that worth money within that short amount of time? they cant. You think noobs can defend themselves? your guns does 7-9 hearts to a full diamond, it can two shot us, think about how it works on noobs, ez one shot, fun? noobs are gonna instantly rage quit, find a new game, live a new life, they aint gonna play this game anymore, 2 days later, they will forget what this server is. Now you see how the game is broken? In my opinion, you should thank us for keeping your game balanced and help the noobs, so they will stay at this server before they discover the fun in it. And all you say is "HaHa! Thats how it should be done!" doesn't seem like a good idea, or is it? i don't want to see the game get broken get broken by its own server manager, but if you wanna still try, go ahead, i still got tmd, egg wars, sky wars, mineplex, hypixel, instantly buy the highest rank, live a new life, but you? brawl? is just gonna die off, disappointed of you making reasonless decisions without thinking at all, disappointed of how you have less knowledge of a player as an smod @18kss
     

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  2. XxPandaLuvxX

    XxPandaLuvxX Active Member

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    yup theres to amny sheriffs online now !!!
     
  3. Carcano

    Carcano Well-Known Member

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    I remember there was a time when there were 8 cuffers online, but that time the armor was unenchanted, the guns don't 2 shot, and everyone wasn't even that pissed that the fact the cuffers made up 1/3 of the total players. This time, the guns one shot noobs, the gear is free, and all the good players quit so nobody is keeping the cuffers busy.
    Honestly there was no need to promote the new cuffers.
    Repeater > t-g
    Coach > sawed
    Revolver > Mauser
    Kevlar > diamond
    And it is free....
    What's even more disgusting is that the cuffers fight their former allies for their gear instead of going on alts and fighting the cuffers... These pricks obviously value allies' gear over the allies themselves... I don't understand how they expect to fight alongside us with our gear...
     
  4. AguaDeLaMiseria

    AguaDeLaMiseria Un-Known Pleasure

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    I disagree. The game was broken when noone was able to make their own decisions, I just went to the server and all I could see is CLAP at wg and farming sheriffs, and noone having good battles as it was used to be. You guys got 6v4ed because we called backups, you could have do the same. Since you guys lost and left the server, the amount of sheriffs was down to 2/3 sheriffs, and it was pretty fair. When I saw there is too much sheriff for the server, I just left, because I can understand it will break the game. It was funny to see me in the example of how the game is broken (xD) but you're not remembering in the past the sheriffs didn't have the 120 seconds cooldown, so I can't see the point there. I grew as almost everyone, I got cuffed hundred and hundred of times but I didn't give up, I knew very cool and nice people (someone of them backstabbed me but that doesn't really matter) and I was a good bandit until you came up with your monopoly idea and made it so boring, so there's not the problem of 18kss if you're not used to lost, I was, and I think I got a space in the community and I'm still loving the server. The only ones those were complaining were you guys, because you're not used to lost. That's my opinion.

    I could agree with some of this, you have a good point there. Kevlar is not free :stuck_out_tongue: and sheriffs don't do too much money as a drug run by the way. I think guns should be nerfed a bit. But it's not that powerful.
     
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  5. Carcano

    Carcano Well-Known Member

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    Lol, do you know what happens when we don't fight the cuffers at wg? They go after tobacco noobs and conductor robbers. Let the noobs make money and not bully the crap out of them.
     
  6. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    Why don't you guys actually test the gun damages? :V
     
  7. Carcano

    Carcano Well-Known Member

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    My gun values are exact, and its true that guns 2 shot. Don't deny it.
     
  8. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    Claude said that they did 7-9 hearts, which is completely false.

    Repeater damage should be nerfed. I like your idea of only spawning with the revolver, but when I recommended it in the sheriff group chat, I was told that a combat update is underway. We should wait a bit. #soon
     
  9. Carcano

    Carcano Well-Known Member

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    War 2.0 was underway for years, but is it out?
     
  10. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    Brawl's had three separate coders for three different versions of War 2.0 over three years, which is the reasoning behind its delay. War 2.0 is its own gamemode, unlike the new system that will be implemented.
     
  11. Carcano

    Carcano Well-Known Member

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    And what exactly is the 'new system'? Some other crappy changes about to be made? Honestly keeping it a secret is a stupid idea, the devs are doing what they think is right, not what the players think is right. We have a right to know, if we don't like it then we will say before the changes are here... That way we can save everyone's time.
     
  12. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    It's an achievement update, with gun balances. That's all I know.
     
  13. Nafsu

    Nafsu Active Member

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    I want you to repeat those same words when WW has 6 players on with 7 sheriffs on daily.
     
  14. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    You guys can still seem to manage to beat us when it's even, for instance 8v8. I don't care about damages and such. I don't care that we respawn with 3 guns and ammo with armor. It seems to be even. You all make more money than we do. Sheriff is not a money making role. We cant support guns every life. Whenever any of you die, you feel like the game is unfair. But dying is a part of the game. We'll see what the new update brings, and then we'll each have more to complain about xD but the big point is is that it's fair right now. Sometimes you all win, sometimes we win.
     
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  15. Paul

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    Stop thinking about yourself and your own team and think about the server as a whole.

    All I've seen from you and your team are incredibly unbalanced ideas that favor no one but yourselves and anyone else who is well established on the server. Your idea of "balance" and the rest of ours is completely different

    kthx
     
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  16. AguaDeLaMiseria

    AguaDeLaMiseria Un-Known Pleasure

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    There are 7 sheriffs just when we call for backups to fight some full Ds, I think you know who they're.
     
  17. Trogy

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    I agree with you in some ways. I enjoyed this game most a few months ago when there was great balance. TG did 4.5 hearts to kevlar, and repeater did 4 hearts to full diamond. Getting 2-shot is never fun at all, and although I am a sheriff, I have experienced getting 2-shot many times. not fun.

    However, our shotgun, to say the least is awful. The model overpowers it greatly, due to it's rate of fire. Once you are being sprayed by a model, it is very hard to recover from that. Also since most of the fights go down inside the rebel base, seeing as how bandits have the stronger shotgun, you have the advantage close range. (when sheriffs don't cuff). For these reasons, I feel that our rifle advantages are mostly equal to your shotgun advantages. Also the repeater does 5.5 hearts, not 7-9. I can assure you.

    In my opinion, this is the best way to change the game to make gun fights fairest.
    TG ---> 4 hearts ---> kevlar (Headshot)
    Repeater ---> 4 hearts ---> full diamond (Headshot)
    Model ---> 4 hearts ---> Kevlar (all pellets)
    Coach ---> 4 hearts ---> Full diamond (all pellets)

    also ROF for guns would have to be the same as well.
     
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  18. enderdragon3615

    enderdragon3615 Well-Known Member

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    Joker, have you ever considered that your "helpful and easygoing attitude" is the reason that WW has less players? I'm not sure if you realize this, but you and Clap are the ones camping wildgrass. You claim to be helping the less powerful players by drawing the attention of the sheriff's, but in all reality you kill every person who is not allied with you. Naturally a player who first joins WW will go for the highest profit drug, and little they know that they are about to be butchered by your "kindness." And when they keep dying to you and your allies they will become frustrated and quit. Up until a few days ago there weren't that many active sheriff's yet WW' s numbers were dwindling in June. Joker, it is you and teams like Clap that are suffocating this server, you are the ones that pretend to be helping the less fortunate and then killing them. It is you who creates a toxic atmosphere in chat, and no matter how many mutes you get you just continue on. Players want a game where people are friendly and helpful. The majority of people like a bit of challenge in their gameplay. Wild West has lost (if it ever had) it's friendly atmosphere. It has become more than a little challenge to even come close to the wealth of Clap. All of this discourages players from attempting to play this game. Yes there are more sheriff's on than usual, but if you think about it you, Clap, and their allies have been grinding Wg constantly.
    So to conclude, I think you need to stop believing that it's the staffs fault or the sheriff's fault. Stop blaming everyone but yourself.
     
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  19. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    This isn't even about "sides." There were hardly any sheriffs anymore. They had dropped like flies. So with a new batch of sheriffs comes more sheriffs obviously. :v

    Yes, sheriffs are OP against noobs, but have you considered that fully geared bandits are even more so? Ideally, noobs should have a better chance against both.

    And I don't really think you helped the noobs personally. If you think about it, all you did was create a massive team that camped an entire area killing all the noobs in sight. Your team was so unstoppable that the sheriffs ignored it and went to arrest other people anyways. All that CLAP provided was one less base for noobs to process at except for the occasional "peaceful processing" times that were oftentimes interrupted anyways.
    Illegal guns OSK them too. .-.
    Repeater < or = t-g
    Coach > sawed
    Revolver < Mauser
    Kevlar < diamond

    For the millionth time, Kevlar is worse than diamond. >:V Diamond is 80% damage reduction consistently. >:V Kevlar reduces 74.4% of all damage on average.
     
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  20. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    sheriff guns = free, and get the same stats as the illegal priced guns? doesn't seem fair

    as you can see, you want me to play as the 100% nice guy? i let noobs do whatever they want? i get no control of the game? who's gonna fear me then? how does everyone know that I'm a good player if i don't kill anyone? you want me to ask retarded kids for 1v1? they are gonna be like "sword pvp or no" its a gun server and they ask for sword pvp, i claim wild grass, its just like your house, would you let someone random walk in the front door, take a piss in your living room, and have a picnic at your back yard? if you will, then i got nothing to say, if you won't, then you'll get what i mean, if you say t-g > repeater, repeater does more dmg than t-g and a firerate of carcano, i shot doug twice in the face 2 minutes ago, he somehow survived without morphine or whiskey (i attacked him in the back) well, then breeze came, i shot him twice in the face all headshots, twice in the body 70% shots, and once 30% shot, he somehow survived with 8 hearts left, and he only shot me 3 times i died, if you don't believe it, ask him your self, if you think I'm too stupid to know how I'm destroying the game, ill leave, lets see how noobs are gonna like 10 sheriffs online at once rotate checking all the bases with 2 minutes gap, so you buff your guns, and buff your numbers, you want to destroying the "balance"? fine, you got it, ill just go on tmd and hack around with unlimited alts, no big deal, when i come back, i hope the game is still even alive lol
     
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