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No more op weapons in War 2.0

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by PorkChops30, Sep 27, 2016.

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  1. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    While donor guns made the server money, it also turned away a lot of players. At the height of war when ray and bow was released, these weapons could be spammed constantly and gave the players who bought them insane scores, sometimes well over 100 kills. Obviously playing a game where some people have a huge advantage is boring (getting killed over and over again is pretty boring) and this led to decline in new players. Let's not repeat the same mistake again in War 2. Instead of having weapon tiers, make a variety of weapons that each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Even COD, the game this server is based on is balanced. There isn't much difference between the "worst" gun and the "best" gun. Instead, the more skilled player wins. This is true in other games like Overwatch, etc.

    If achieving that balance is too complicated, a system where similarly leveled players play each other would be the way to go.

    For example, I can currently confidently walk into a room with 3 or 4 people with a python and skully and wipe them all out in 3 seconds. If they are good enough, they might get a shot in but their pathetic guns will not kill me. This shouldn't be the case. A balanced game would make me use more skill, not just over power everybody who has a lesser gun.
     
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  2. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    Weapons have already been coded, but the levels are not yet set at which you receive each gun. There will be a broad range of gun unlocks. We can't make the same mistake in 2.0, because of the EULA. That prevents Brawl from selling ptw items for 2.0 (and every server). The same problem won't happen again, even though new problems always arise :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  3. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    While you can't pay for them now, currently, players with insanely high levels is still able to buy them. I am proposing that these kind of OP weapons are erased completely.

    Or balanced so that it is not superior to another gun in every way.
     
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    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    I see how that could be beneficial, yet high level players should have something to work for. Before placing those weapons at high levels, people who got past level 60 had nothing to work for other than level and a better kdr, which didn't stop them from playing, but it was more boring than when you are constantly unlocking guns c:
     
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  5. Lekosa1

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    It has been revealed many times (by Lord_Roke and others) that 2.0 guns will only have a tiny damage boost when unlocked at higher levels.

    The point of 2.0 guns is uniqity; it's more about how you use the gun.
     
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    Does that mean everyone's stats will have to be reset?
     
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  7. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    Yes. War 2.0 will be a different server, therefore your level will start over. War will be kept as a legacy server though c:

    EDIT: 1000th message!!
     
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    In war 2.0 the damage of the gun only increases slightly, it is all about playing style and preference
     
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  9. SoCool21

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    The weapons in War 2.0 will be a lot more balanced. They won't all be the same (otherwise there'd be no incentive to level up), but there won't be any insanely bad weapons (like AA12 or whatever it is) or any insanely OP weapons (like iso, mini .etc).
     
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  10. CptJackSwagg3r

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    Screw the 1% !!!
     
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  11. Toki_12

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    Is it worth leveling up if all the guns are gonna be the same?
     
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    They won't. Each gun has a different playstyle, they're just all almost the same in terms of power.
     
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  13. Toki_12

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    "tiny damage boost" meaning that they all will do the same damage?
     
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    They won't have a tiny damage boost - snipers and shotguns will obviously do more than automatic weapons and LMGs. Its just each gun will have a different play style, and some people will prefer some over others. However, overall, they're all balanced and there won't be any that are incredibly OP or UP. And if they are, that'll be changed.
     
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  15. PorkChops30

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    Is it worth making high level players happy at the expense of the much bigger group of newer players?
     
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