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Teams Nerf & Head value changes

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016.

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  1. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Teams Nerf
    Wild west is now in a state in which a few teams control the entire server. Cardx is in control in most timezones, CROW is in control when a lot of europeans play. I have tryed to come up with ideas to fix this (I asume the forums community wont support these, partly because most of you are in one of these powerful teams).

    (Idea #1)Team member limit:
    - I suggest a limit around 8 (Could be changed over time)
    - A few more houses would need to be added (Just a few because big teams are rare rn)
    - Teams could still truce and form huge "teams" in this way, but "friendly fire" would be a problem.

    (Idea #2)Team Rogue:
    - Every team member would go rogue if one goes
    [EDIT]: Rogue could be added only for all the team members in a certain range. Credits to @Pyrotheum
    [EDIT2]: Rogue could be added for all players who arent in a town. Credits to @Eil

    (Idea #3)/team hq nerf #1:
    - players could just do /team hq while in towns

    (Idea #3)/team hq nerf #2:
    - /team hq would have a cooldown per team. This would make it impossible for an entire team to hq. (There would be no point in this in case hq nerf #1 is implemented)

    Bounty & Head value change
    It is easy to check if someone is processing at a base by doing /profile <player>. This can also sometimes be done by checking the most wanted list at a bank. This could be fixed like this:

    [EDIT]: I want this to be super clear. The point of this Head value change thingy is not to increade/decrease head values. The point is to make it so players actually have to check bases in order to know if someone is at them.

    0-750 bounty = 50$ value when sold
    750-1500 bounty = 250$ value when sold
    1500-3000 bounty = 500$ value when sold
    3000-7500 bounty = 1000$ value when sold
    7500-15000 bounty = 2500$ value when sold
    15000-25000 bounty = 5000$ value when sold
    25000-50000 bounty = 7500$ value when sold
    50000+ bounty = 12500$ value when sold

    The head value would be displayed when doing /profile instead of bounty. The head value would also be shown at the bank.

    Any thoughts?

    Credits to @randomcitizen1 for the hq nerf ideas
     
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    #1 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
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  2. Champloo

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    Team limit: no.
    More houses: yes, why not.
    Every member rogue: Only those team members who are in a radius of 100 blocks of the one that went rogue first. And for 3 minutes max.
    Team HQ cooldown: No that doesnt sound like a good idea, sometimes teams are spread around the map.
    The bounties: those rewards seem kinda low. You rarely see someone with a 10k+ bounty.
     
    #2 Champloo, Oct 23, 2016
  3. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Those rewards are higher than the current ones on average
     
    #3 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
  4. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    Idea 1: Like it
    Idea 2: Like it (max of 100 blocks - and not the full 5 minutes)
    Idea 3: Don't like it
    Idea 4: Its ok... not sure if I like it or not, depends on how much delay

    I feel the head values should be increased, a bit, but not much.
     
    #4 Eil, Oct 23, 2016
  5. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Read the [EDIT] under Bounty & Head value change.
     
    #5 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
  6. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    Crow. Made in America, exported to the UK. Ez get rekted.
     
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    #6 TheMafias, Oct 23, 2016
  7. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Stay on topic please
     
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  8. Champloo

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    Thanks for the useful message
     
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    #8 Champloo, Oct 23, 2016
  9. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    really... My comment in fact pertains to what is said in the topic. So please, don't try to minimod me. Thanks.
     
    #9 TheMafias, Oct 23, 2016
  10. Carcano

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    Totally pointless suggestions, you only made this thread because cardx is dominating the server. If crow > cardx you wouldn't suggest **** about nerfs.
     
    #10 Carcano, Oct 23, 2016
  11. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    I already thought of this when i was in Nike. I am usually online during times when CROW dominates/is even, so thats a invalid argument. And please stay on topic. Lets not start a flame war.
     
    #11 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
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    1. Those all quantity no quality teams of 30+ players aren't dominating the server, so no point.
    2. Person 1 is procing ores afk in a town
    Person 2 1v1s someone outside town borders
    Person 1 and 2 go rogue
    Person 1 gets ez cuffed with a inv full of ores cuz rogue. Pointless.
    3. Pointless, no reason to add a cooldown. The people who cant hq will have to log, giving kids like you opportunities to camp your ass off.
    4. You just don't want us finding out where you are processing so we cant kill you, but when we do do base checks you log instantly already.

    All these changes are selfish toward you and your team. You didnt think about the rest of the server, only how to give your team the advantage and how to make our team weaker.
     
    #12 Carcano, Oct 23, 2016
  13. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    This idea would not be benefical to Cardx members. That is what i stated here:
    CROW = 17 players
    CardX = 14 players
    setting a member limit of 8 would limit the power of both CardX and CROW. Nike and nerf was even bigger teams.

    I know that might be an issue, but i think it would work with the changes @Pyrotheum suggested. Also, is afking a good thing?

    I dont understand what your point is here. Also can you stop trying to create a flame war?

    This would actually not benefit me. Quite the opposite. I do think it would greatly benefit new players though.
     
    #13 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
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  14. Eil

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    Make it so if your in a town, you can't go ROGUE.
     
    #14 Eil, Oct 23, 2016
  15. AguaDeLaMiseria

    AguaDeLaMiseria Un-Known Pleasure

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    #1 Idc, it's not a big problem imo.
    #2 what pyrotheum said.
    #3 Can't HQ while in a rebel base or a 15 radios from them.
    #4 yes, I'd like it.

    Add more houses and decrease the price for them.
    Make teams be created for 5k.
    Better house system.
    The option of adding a description/rules to show when /team info or /team rules.
     
    #15 AguaDeLaMiseria, Oct 23, 2016
  16. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    What is the point in this? How does it help anything?
     
    #16 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
  17. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    1. No, it would just become Team Crow, Team Crow2, Team Crow3.
    2. I like Eil's idea, especially since we don't have access to a bandit tracker anymore.
    3. A player could simply do /team hq to escape from a sheriff. This would be easily abused.
    4. This is rather illogical, in my opinion. What if players on two different sides of the map want to warp back at the exact same time?

    Bounty: If anything, heads should be buffed in prices, not nerfed. -1.
     
    #17 AnimeLoverVerlyn, Oct 23, 2016
  18. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    I think many of you have misunderstood the point in the head value change thingy (english is my 3rd best language). It does not really matter to me if heads are buffed in prices or not. The point is to make it impossible to determine wether a player is at a base or not by doing /profile <player>.

    1. Friendly fire
    2. We all like it.
    3. What? You could still not hq when a sheriff is in a 50 block range/ you are rogue.
    4. This wouldn't be much of a problem because of the fact that it is very unlikely. The cooldown could be like 40s, so you could surely wait that time in case this unlikely scenario happens.
     
    #18 Hitchens, Oct 23, 2016
  19. AguaDeLaMiseria

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    'Team Nerf'.
     
    #19 AguaDeLaMiseria, Oct 23, 2016
  20. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but wouldnt it only affect new teams?
     
    #20 Hitchens, Oct 24, 2016
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