To Save Wild West

The game needs a remake/rethink. When it was first released, it was very popular, 80+ most of the time. Then Lord_Roke decided the economy was a bit too inflated (which, in fairness it was), however the changes he made were far too drastic, buying a diamond set, guns, pots etc costed near 100k. It was extremely hard to make money etc. The damage this caused to the community was devastating. Why people liked it originally was because you didn't need to process much to get gear, which resulted in lots of geared fights, tonnes of teams (small teams I should add - which is one of the reasons it was successful, more on that later). When I played, there was a diamond fight somewhere on the server at least ever 30 minutes. A lot of the community consisted of WarZ players, who had left WarZ and wanted a change in the form of WildWest. The economy changes made the fighting aspect of the game, the aspect that was most fun diminished resulting in people getting bored, frustrated, and leaving - which caused the player count to drop by over half.

Slowly, these changes have been rectified, and the economy is now much similar to its original state. However, WildWest already had a bad reputation from the reset and thus still has low player amounts. The problems with the game are quite simple. If you ask people whats wrong with it, you can bet you'll get at least 1 of these responses:

A - Its boring
B - its impossible to get money, or become good with these huge teams (CROW, CardX)
C - I don't know how to play

So, lets address each of these problems in turn

A - This is the majority of what the community think. The game consists of harvest/mine, process, buy, fight, die, repeat. There is no real end goal - some people say getting a house is the end goal but, to be honest, its not much of an achievement. The skills and achievements did add a little boost to this but, the majority of people don't even know these are a thing because there is niobium's mention of them in /help, or the tutorial (more on that later). @randomcitizen1 is of the favour of a plot based world where you can customise your own house - I like this idea in part. Being able to customise your house with objects or items you get from quests (should be a thing) would be cool. Maybe get special blocks, or heads from quests, and try to beat other players on these things. The reason why doing this with the current house system won't work is because if you can't afford your house anymore, or accidentally forget to top it up, you've lost everything. In the plot based world this wouldn't happen, however my concern is the idea of having a separate world for the plots. I just don't think it fits in with the theme of WildWest. I'd prefer to be able to customise the current houses and make a system where they are either a 1 time buy, or where if your house expires, you still get the stuff in it back.

There also needs to be more things to do, and more ways to make money - Fishing stations have been suggested - maybe they could give special items (for the houses...), skill set that goes with this. Cattle driving, dynamite sticks, repairing armour + tonnes of other ideas have been suggested, some are very very good. But nothing happens. I know Brawl is short of resources, money, coders etc.

B - Simple, stop the big teams. Team caps - This prevents big teams, and while teams can also 'truce' there is still friendly fire which can be a big advantage if attacking a group of truce teams. Again, add more ways to make money, less chance of dying etc.

C - While there is a tutorial it is extremely outdated and old, and needs and update. There also needs to be additions, possible tactics, and tips how to avoid sheriffs, how to get money safely etc. People join and even after doing the tutorial have no idea what they are doing, then leave and there goes another player.

(You'll notice my analysis is getting short and shorter and thats cause I have got to go, but you get the picture. I don't think a reset is the way because within 3 days it will be the same. Things needed changed, not reset)

 

I agree that it needs a remake. The current system just doesn't work most of the times. Its either a large group vs 1/2 sheriffs, or its 3 sheriffs vs a small group of bandits. The way processors work aren't balanced either, the OP team will always camp in the good rebel bases. The only way to make money for new players is by mining which isnt particular exciting.

 

I used to believe a reset would fix everything, but im now realizing that it wouldnt. to avoid a slippery slope argument ill speak hypothetically.

If there was a reset, the big teams would reband together due to the fact that they are all friends already and that this is actually based on research done by me on raid. they will stick with what they know. once these "new groups" are situated, they will swarm the rebel bases, killing everyone who opposes them with sheer numbers, and remake all their money. once their money is made, they will once again put an alt in every reebel base and things will go back to what they are right now.

Keep in mind that this is still hypothetical, but is also partly based in truth. instead, I propose the inability to logout in rebel bases, and a rework of the relationship between sheriffs and innocents. right now, people hunt down sheriffs for their pricey heads. however, if we added a feature that changed the way innocents see sheriffs, they may be more obligated to band together to drstroy the big teams.

 

That's if they choose to come back, a lot would also see all of their hard work destroyed, get annoyed and just outright leave. The players you'd gain from the reset would be matched by those leaving annoyed because of it

 

It's simple, get the old drug price back so nubs can make thousands in a few minutes for sets and "try" to come for me. But it's not gonna work either way, the alts are pretty blood thursty too. Do a reset if you want, with 2 default alt 1 elite alt and 1 elite main, 20 minutes and I'll get enough, 1 hour and I'll get enough to set alts around the world. Face the truth, if I want the game dead, it's dead, I could've made it noob friendly, but too bad, you guys destroyed the chance yourselves.

 

You seem to think WildWest revolves around you, it doesn't. So get you're head out your... the clouds and stop thinking your the be all and end all of it.

 

Suggestion: work together to come up with ideas to improve the server instead of being at each other's throats.

 

Go Read - https://www.brawl.com/forums/304/ then tell me we don't work come up with ideas - Nothing changes, even when we had a Dev only small things changed economy, damages etc. Nothing NEW was added. Seriously, read the ideas, some brilliant ones in there.

 

I didn't say work to come up with ideas. I said you two in particular work together on idea instead of arguing with each other

 

Just me who sees this?

 

look at the 2 quotes and you see work "together". I also quoted the pair of you in that post. I thought the inference was pretty obvious but ok @Eil I'll be specific just for you:

@Eil and @enderdragon3615 instead of arguing with each other how about you come up with an idea together to bring some life to wild west

hope that's clear enough for you

 

Wild West is in a desperate state right now, and I think only a rework or a few tweaks would make it better. It's just too easy to win if you're on a good team. A reset would do nothing. The best teams would just make all their money back with a few drug runs, then the game would be back to where it was. We either need team limits, or a complete rework imo. But we'll have to wait :3

 

Nope... not understanding this. Can't see at all where me and ender were arguing. Also, I've already come up with many ideas, as have others - https://www.brawl.com/forums/304/ - Also see my post in this thread on my ideas. Now can we get back on topic please and stop this pointless bickering.

 

Words fail me. I'm just going to leave you in ignorant bliss at this point, there's nothing I can do to make you understand

 

Let's not continue this please. Stay on topic.

 

I quit Wild West because of how overpowered the rich teams are. The game got boring really. Everything was too easy for my point of view, and it was too hard for several others. I think the game needs a reset/rework. I would like to see a team cap (Maybe only 15 people per team), but this would just mean more truces, and a bigger monopoly. Vote crates may be nice. I think it would be a fun idea to add more skills, so players can level up more and enjoy the game. Other ways to make good money would be good. Quests could be cool, too. I don't know, these are just some of my ideas.