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Discussion in 'Wild West' started by enderdragon3615, Nov 15, 2016.

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  1. Stefancake

    Stefancake Active Member

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  2. Jahango

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    Ya but it's just funny how he says everyone quit because of ProdG when I only just created the team like a week or two ago.. so?
     
  3. Stefancake

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    You're saying that we're making people quit? The goal of Prodigy (ProdG) was to "kill" CardX, as they dominate ww.
    Also, CardX is alot richer than us.
    CardX were the ones making noobs quit, not us indeed.

    Also, I team with 3 players of boa, yes, but what's the point of me playing alone instead of with them, i'll sit for hours and do nothing.
     
  4. EpikJack

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    I know, it would be a bit risky to Reset the game! Or it would be famous like one time or wild west dies.
     
  5. Stefancake

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    Reseting the game won't help, some good players will get some money, buy gear, and hell is back.
     
  6. Hitchens

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    I feel like a lot of new players are want a reset. They feel so because players who have played longer have an advantage. But well they have worked for it.
     
  7. enderdragon3615

    enderdragon3615 Well-Known Member

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    My opinion would be to hold off on the reset, at least for a little while. For all we know Wild West is slowly getting back on its feet, and if we were to have a reset we might just kill it for good. Of course this is just speculation, but I have seen quite a number of servers die just because they did a last desperate reset which ended up killing the entire server. It would be best if we just took this slowly rushing things might result in a terrible mistake.
     
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  8. Eil

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    Reset won't do anything - It will just go back to what it currently is within a week or two of the reset. It needs a rework.
     
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  9. EpikJack

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    Right... but Brawl could give every new player a gun. Not the best one but just one
     
  10. Hitchens

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    I would have nothing against this. Maybe make the gear everyone gets in the start better?
     
  11. Stefancake

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    Thinking of Carcano possibly? Won't matter, the Skilled players will kill them, the end.
     
  12. pewgeon

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    Team cap and only 1 team can be processing at each processor at once (this is what would need to happen if there was a reset). Most of the best teams aren't hard working. I mean it is hard work to fight but it's not hard work to be the best team. It's just a bunch of players keeping the new players from rising so there is NO POSSIBLE way for the newbies to get good enough to even have a chance to rebel against without any help. Like first off it's kinda messed up how it's just complete stereotyping with the big teams how they instantly invite the WarZ or TDM players. They don't care about the new players when the best players were actually old WarZ. It is true that most of the best players are WarZ players but some people are not even that good at WarZ or Wild West but they are in the best teams, have best gear, and just make themselves look good off of noob kills. I'm not going to name people because there will be a lot of ranting about someone being above average. They are above average but barely above average. Average is let's say 25/50. The people that I'm talking about are like 30/50 while people like JustFamouz or Nafsu are 45/50. I personally am an OLD WarZ player. I played 2 years back and it was kinda easy for me because no one knew how to aim, just combo. Killer_Kameron is an OLD WarZ player. I believe joker is an old TMD player. Some of the best players before reset were WarZ and CS:GO players. Most of them were at least unlike now. The thing about the reset before is that there wasn't one team that wouldn't let the noobs grow and gear was easier to get so newbies could get more fighting experience without raging over one WG run of 7 stacks which took about 15 - 30 minutes unlike now it takes like an hour without getting killed. The chat wasn't as toxic and was more friendly to youngsters among the server. Almost everyone had potential unlike now I've encountered about 3 people with potential in the past 2 months. All of them left and never returned. The whole server will have to work together to accomplish keeping Brawl and wild west because the staff alone can't do this. Even Mario is becoming discouraged about wild west and starting to say that it's turning out to be like WarZ which is exactly what he didn't want to happen. If you notice how a couple of people are saying the staff and Mario aren't doing anything about wild west dying. Well to be honest it is just discouraging him. The sheriffs are hackusated left and right and people complain about their free gear while before the reset they didn't because people could actually rise and beat sheriffs. The gear wasn't as expensive so they didn't complain as much for losing gear. Now an hour of work may seem like little to get the best gear but we all know that every single newbie get's the gear and guess what... the better player's kill them three times with good gear by logging into bases and 3v1's and backup and the only time they die is to some player that is probably an alt of a player that got mad and uses macros, speed, tracers, and xray. And it's because they are mad so for wild west to become "great" again and have it not die the whole server including the stubborn people in CardX (not all of them are) to stop log killing and to actually not have 1 big team of good players. Even a player that has played for a month now and has multiple full d fights with me and big teams and has lost. Guess what he did. He got on an alt and said he played WarZ and got into CardX just like that, even though I have never seen him play WarZ EVER until now. Like bruh you hear someone drinking pots and you continue to jump around in full gear. Players before reset on my scale were more like 55/50 on average and the good players were more like 60/50 and the best players were more like 80/50 and were practically unstoppable. At least they weren't addicted to killing newbies and getting no gear at all like the best players of now. Well that's all I have to say. Just work together (not one big team) and make wild west more new player friendly. It was like 3x better before reset.
     
  13. EpikJack

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    Yes

    I think it were the best Thing if Sherrifs would be more online. So the people that have everyday a giant Bounty can go to the Prison too!
     
  14. enderdragon3615

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    I believe there are two main reasons why so many players (I myself am hesitant) are opposed to a Wild West reset. The first reason would be the repercussions that the last one caused to the player base. I feel that people jumped to conclusions to quickly without thoroughly looking into the player decrease.

    First of all Wild West was a new game to brawl that offered something unique. Obviously players would be drawn to this new and interesting sounding game. People have made many many many posts on the overall decline of players on the entire Brawl server. Clearly player loss is not just affecting Wild West, but many of the other games. When Wild West reset it kinda gave players a reason to stop playing, especially since the game was no longer shiny and new. If a player was only slightly attached to Wild West, then the reset just gave them a reason to call it quits in the first place. Wild West has something now that it didn't have before. It has a fan base that won't just quit due to a reset like before. One of the keys to a reset is to advertise like crazy. How can players join the server if no one tells them that they have a chance now? It would be a hopeful wish that players would see a reset as an advantage and not a disadvantage. Make it sound like one of the best things ever, instead of moping about and complain about the amount of work lost. If players see that the Wild West community is excited and motivated then that might motivate others to try their hand once more at Wild West.

    The second reason why players seem to oppose a Wild West reset is in a few weeks the game will revert back to what it is today. I can definitely see this point, and it poses a strong argument to not reset Wild West, but lets take a look at it just for arguments sake. The first and only Wild West reset was something totally new to the game. No one really knew what to expect or what to do after all their items and money were lost. So what would everyone do? They would use the same strategies as when Wild West was first introduced. This is flawed a flawed plan since many of the veteran players knew exactly what to focus on, and since most of the strong and knowledgeable players banded together there was little to no chance for the rest of the floundering server to stand against them. The players are ready for a reset this time. We have many player actively trying to defeat the top teams, and become stronger them self. I believe that if the server was to reset, many players would not just band together into the same team. I am counting on old rivalries to make at least two top teams so they can war among one another. The players need direction. Instead of just resetting the server and throwing salt water fish into a fresh body of water, guide them. All of the veterans of the old Wild West have seen this before. They know what and what not to do. A helpful forum thread would be nice so people can share their thoughts on the best ways to get to the top leader boards.

    Yeah, I do want a server reset, and I hope that by making this post I can help people see the slight possibility of resetting the server. This reset won't be like the first one because the players are more educated, and we have all witnessed what happens if certain players/teams go unchecked. I can't say for sure because their simply is not enough information, but I do think it would be wise to take resetting under deep consideration.
     
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  15. RVNG_SLAYER

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    A reset would be great :wink: But most people might not like the idea
     
  16. Hitchens

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    The only effect a reset would have in case ww isnt reworked entirely is to piss off those who have played for a long period of time.
     
  17. _Karst

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    Making money takes to long thats why its boring
     
  18. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    Making money to the point that you feel comfortable using it takes a long time.
    What I like doing is buying a set of guns and armor only as I need it, and using the gear off of the people I kill during that lifetime. You'll find that it saves a lot of money.
     
  19. _Karst

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    Its smart, but i didnt say it is hard to make money but it takes to long, think 25G per 3,9 sec i pretty slow (depends on ranks/proc level)
     
  20. deppresso

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    just ban the rich people :smile:
    im jk
     
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