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  1. AcpSoldier

    AcpSoldier Well-Known Member

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    Hey everybody,

    November's Brawl news was published today and no one seems to see what I see. Everyone is congratulating each other on another "good month". I'm sorry to be that guy, but November was NOT a good month for Brawl.

    When I read the November Brawl News for the first time, I thought that an 18,432 player increase was quite an encouraging number. Then I looked at the numbers for this past year.

    January: Total players: 3,197,624 (68,577 increase)
    February: Total players: 3,247,265 (49,641 increase)
    March: Total players: 3,285,077 (37,812 increase)
    April: Total players: 3,323,515 (38,438 increase)
    May: Total players: 3,346,592 (23,077 increase)
    June: Total players: 3,374,565 (27,973 increase)
    July: Total players: 3,374,565 (31,545 increase)
    August: Total players: 3,440,102 (65,537 increase)
    September: Total players: 3,462,206 (22,104 increase)
    October: Total players: 3,485,142 (22,936 increase)
    November: Total players: 3,503,574 (18,432 increase) <------ We are here.

    Again, I'm sorry for being a party pooper, but the "18,432 increase" is actually a RECORD LOW for Brawl. We shouldn't ignore this, we should fix this. Putty made a great post including a proposed revival plan. I think Brawl should do exactly what is said in the above post, especially: "Remove dumb servers we can't actually upkeep".

    I'll end it on a positive note: DON'T WORRY! War 2.0 is coming out soon (For real this time?), and this will probably help out a LOT. As long as Brawl advertises heavily for this new game mode, I think we will be fine.


    Have a great day everyone, and Merry Christmas.
    - AcpSoldier


    EDIT: This post wasn't about calling out staff for doing a bad job. I was just trying to let the people who said 'great month guys' and 'how can Brawl be dying with 18k increase' that November wasn't exactly the best month for Brawl. I know the admins are under a lot of pressure and are really easy to criticize at the moment. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was just bashing the admins for doing a bad job, that's not what I was trying to do.
     
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  2. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    It is kind of funny for me that you publish this now, because just today, right before releasing Brawl News, I updated my own spreadsheet with statistics (New players per month).

    Of course you are right, looking at the income of new players Brawl is not doing good. However, you also need to keep in mind that this only records players logging on who have never joined Brawl before - it does not say anything about how many players are active (Before you say it, yes, I'm well aware the average player count is also not to great - just explaining the statistics).

    We already follow some points of Putty's plan: We are focussing on getting the promised and planned servers out for example.
    We also plan to use every possible way of advertisement when releasing the new gamemodes - YouTube, Twitter, E-Mail, Minecraft Websites - but for actual advertisement as in paying a youtuber or putting ads on AdSense we (currently) do not have enough money.

    In conclusion: You are absolutely correct, Brawl is not doing too good and you can see that from the statistics (this was pointed out several times during the last months already). We as the staff team are aware of the fact and are trying to fix it.
     
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  3. AcpSoldier

    AcpSoldier Well-Known Member

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    Just curious: Have you released any other statistics? I'd love to see what's in that spreadsheet of yours.
     
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    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Only the public statistics you can see in all Brawl News editions.
     
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    oh.... i dont know how to respond
     
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    It's sort of expected that the longer a servers around the less 'new players' there are that can join, new players aren't an endless supply, however that's a steep decline from January
     
  7. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    Attached a graph of the number of new players increase month over month.
    January: Total players: 3,197,624 (68,577 increase)
    February: Total players: 3,247,265 (49,641 increase)
    March: Total players: 3,285,077 (37,812 increase)
    April: Total players: 3,323,515 (38,438 increase)
    May: Total players: 3,346,592 (23,077 increase)
    June: Total players: 3,374,565 (27,973 increase)
    July: Total players: 3,374,565 (31,545 increase)
    August: Total players: 3,440,102 (65,537 increase)
    September: Total players: 3,462,206 (22,104 increase)
    October: Total players: 3,485,142 (22,936 increase)
    November: Total players: 3,503,574 (18,432 increase) <------ We are here.

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  8. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    The numbers in the first quote are incorrect; might either have written them down incorrectly or the information in the Brawl News was calculated incorrectly.
     
  9. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    If you want help creating monthly data points, dashboards, data analytics, and tying them to strategy hit me up.

    Happy to help.

    The Lord of Data Analysis
     
  10. SoCool21

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    Not surprised. One of Brawl's main gamemodes, War, has been in decline for a while. It'll hopefully shoot up #soon.
     
  11. Paul

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    you think about it, 18k isn't that bad lol (~600 players or so every day)

    if we have more appealing gamemodes to new players (ie. war 2.0) , it could actually lead to a more significant amount of players wanting to stay, thus player count going up again.

    on a side note:

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    May: Total players: 3,346,592 (23,077 increase)
    June: Total players: 3,374,565 (27,973 increase)
    July: Total players: 3,374,565 (31,545 increase)
    August: Total players: 3,440,102 (65,537 increase)
    September: Total players: 3,462,206 (22,104 increase)
    
    wtf did we do in august lmao
     
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  12. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    We should be using data monthly to:

    1) Identify player trends

    2) Analyze what we are doing right

    3) and seek to understand what we could do better.

    Homework for all Mods & Admins...Watch the movie "Moneyball."

     
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    summer happend
     
  14. Paul

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    elaborate june, july, and early september
     
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    I dunno but I know wildwest and CTF as well as war (the three game modes I play) were doing decent around that time. Also winter breaks on the other side of the world as well as summer breaks beginning in the USA? I dunno just ideas...
     
  16. Proterozoic

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    exams happen in may/june. I don't know exactly term times abroad but I do know the UK doesn't break up til mid july, and goes back early september. Would explain at least some of the counts massively jumping in August
     
  17. Lord_Roke

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    The number is incorrect, if you look at June and July the total players are the same.

    Just pointing out that a part of the statistics by AcpSoldier are wrong and thus your graph is as well.
     
  18. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    Whats the correct figure?
     
  19. AcpSoldier

    AcpSoldier Well-Known Member

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    There are no 'statistics by AcpSoldier'. All of the numbers are copied directly from past Brawl news. The total amount of players didn't change from June to July according to the Brawl News, which is most definitely wrong. Although, the increase of players for June and July are both unique and are probably still accurate. @MR_EVIL_OVERLORD's graph is probably still accurate even thought there's a typo in the Brawl News.

    One more thing: This post wasn't about calling out staff for doing a bad job. I was just trying to let the people who said 'great month guys' and 'how can Brawl be dying with 18k increase' that November wasn't exactly the best month for Brawl. I know the admins are under a lot of pressure and are really easy to criticize at the moment. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was just bashing the admins for doing a bad job, that's not what I was trying to do.
     
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  20. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I agree with @AcpSoldier that data tells a story.

    This is not a blame game. The numbers are what they are.

    Data can help us identify opportunities, gaps (weaknesses), and help us to develop analytics so we can craft a winning formula/strategy.

    #LordOfStats
     
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