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Idea Make bowls uncraftable

Discussion in 'Raid' started by 0racle, Dec 21, 2016.

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Would you like this idea?

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  2. No

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  1. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Yes, this would be a huge change, but I think it would greatly add to PvP. I think bowls should not be craftable, but instead, obtainable only by killing enderman. This would add more activity in the end, and hopefully would bring more pvp there. This would also add to the economy, valuing bowls more. Enderman could drop maybe 2-5 bowls per kill, and could work with the looting enchant. Please share your thoughts.
     
  2. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Honestly, no, because it means that if one team controls the End, they have far more soup than others, which makes a major difference.
     
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  3. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Kinda iffy on this one, I think it might bring more action to the end and importance, but at the same time the most powerful team could just take control of it for some time and just horde bowls killing anyone in site that doesn't have soup yet. If this is done before a reset people would just mass produce bowls with wood and save it, if it's done after a reset, the team with the most numbers would just find the end and camp there for easy kills since the other players don't have bowls to make soup.
     
  4. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Hence why there should be team limits. Also, it wouldn't be like the teams would just camp the end. Even if they did, you could try to rid them out of there with your team. Ideally though, team caps ^^^^^
     
  5. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Team caps could work, but at the same time teams could "Truce" and not kill each other. This idea would be great if it weren't for those certain times that always find a way to put themselves on top. Also, saying newer players joined, it should be easy for them to find the end portal.
     
  6. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    I suppose. I mean the end is big enough where I do think you could farm some bowls in peace, even if others were there. I don't believe a whole team would just be camping there though. It would bring more activity, which we need, but I don't think it would just be guarded by teams. And if so, you could just buy them or farm enderman in the over world, or raid for them, or just kill the people in the end.

    And yes, the end will be easily accessible
     
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  7. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    I don't have a team, I play solo
     
  8. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Well that is your choice, but keep in mind the opportunity cost :wink:
     
  9. RockTomb

    RockTomb Ex Legacy Manager + SMOD

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    I think this could be a good idea, but there are a few problems. What if some people camp the end? Would endermen drop pearls?
     
  10. Eil

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    I'm not staff, but I can safely say yes they will, or in the very unlikely event that this is not the case, there will be another way to obtain them easily.

    I like this idea. They appear both in overworld and end, making them not solely end based. It would add a new dimension of 'hardcore' into the gamemode. As regards to the team caps, I think there needs to be a big enough incentive for teams not to form alliances.
     
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  11. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Yes, ender men would still drop pearls. And for the campers, I don't see that being an issue at all. The end is fairly large, and there are better things to do than just sit in the end all day with all of your team waiting to kill anyone who jumps in. That doesn't make sense at all. And as I stated previously, there would be other ways to get bowls still
     
  12. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    This would be a good idea, where there a solid playerbase. What these threads should focus on is making the game easier for players, instead of harder. This would definitely be time consuming, and the newer players out there aren't willing to go through the trouble. -1.
     
  13. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    People need to learn how to be good though, and that is something I've also been trying to focus on. Sorry to sound blunt, but I don't think you understand how this server really works. Long time players are wanting changes in gameplay, and increased competition. This is just one idea I'm suggesting to get an opinion on, since it would be a massive change.

    Bumping this. What does not appeal to this idea? Assuming we have team caps of 5-8 players. Please share your opinions

    Also, would this idea be more balanced if creepers also dropped bowls?
     
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  14. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Assuming there is a team cap and either an easier way for newer players to get to the end or creepers dropping bowls as well I think this would be a good addition. I also think there should be some way of letting players know that that's how you get bowls so they're not confused when they want to craft any. Possibly a tutorial as mentioned times before.
     
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    have drop pary amd team cap and

    lol

    Assuming there is a team cap and either an easier way for newer players to get to ´the end or creepers dropping Bowls as well i Think this would be ulda good addition i also Think here should be some way of letting players know that that ,s how you get Bowls so they re not confused when they want to Craft any. Possibly a tutorial as mentioned times Before.
     
  16. Eil

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    I thought before that making it just Endermen would be slightly hard on new players, since they would have the problem of other players in the end that would kill them, and also endermen are quite tough to kill and deal a lot of damage - However, adding creepers to this I feel would make it perfect, and I really like this idea since its something other servers don't have, and adds a bit of spice to the gamemode.
     
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  17. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    I think @Eil's creeper suggestion would be good (with the Endermen included), all points have been mentioned already.
     
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