Remove /Bail

Ideally, cross-teaming would become punishable.

 

There is two sides to this. The sheriffs and the bandits. All have good points (I also wanna point out that all of the non-sheriffs are saying no...) So for my sheriffs argument:

They rarely win a fight without being outnumbered. The bandits just come back and /bail. They only get about 1 kill or lucky cuff every 5 - 10 waves.

My bandits argument:

If they have a high bounty and get cuffed, they /bail which costs up to 50k. 5 - 10 sheriff heads is 25k minimum and 50k most. So if they get the most (which is more unlikely) kills they can get, they can bail without losing money (other than gear). Then they have to use another set which will probably cost 30k - 40k. So right there the bandits either lost 30k - 40k. Or 25k + 30k to 40k. So the bandits are still losing money if they get cuffed. But most of the time the sheriffs don't even get a lucky cuff they get a few lucky shotgun shots and get a kill. So minus the 30k - 40k. At most kills they lose pretty much nothing but ammo and meds (and durability). But that's at most kills. And this isn't even the guaranteed scenario. So bandits most of the time lose gear rather than gain gear.

Problems with the arguments:

First off, the sheriffs don't play tactical. They just keep on coming and keep on coming. It's so expected for the sheriffs to come back that they won't be able to be stealthy. It's their fault. They can wait for 5 extra minutes and bandits will start to think they left. Second the sheriffs don't exactly use the right spots. They don't camp a door, a room, or a ladder. And if any bandits say that is cheap. WELL IT'S THE BANDITS FAULT FOR GOING UP IT!

Third, the bandits have to work for their gear. So that's an automatic advantage for sheriffs.
Fourth, it's the bandits fault for getting their bounty so high. I mean 5 minutes of mining now, or an hour of mining later. But they choose an hour of mining because they can just be bailed. Which is an advantage for bandits.
Fifth the bandits (most of the time) don't make their money back unless they are processing (which half the time they aren't). They must get 6 sheriff kills all to themselves to make their 30k (minimum) back.

So those are the problems. The bandits technically should be able to use /bail because they don't profit from sheriff heads most of the time, they have to pay to bail, they have to pay for gear, unlike sheriffs. I suggest keeping your bounty low and this thread wouldn't be a thing.

 

750 hitting sheriff, 2500 killing sheriff.

 

True, some people just go wg base, go rogue and wait for sheriffs to come to kill them and get ez money

 

You have to choose one team to stick with, and a team cap is exactly what I am suggesting.

 

1. They don't use F3 + a all the time. Most of them don't. I've sneaked up on them a lot of times and if they were reloading chunks then they would've known i was there.
2. Idek what you are talking about. And if that is so talk in a town.
3. Most of the time they don't immediately HQ. And if they do that's great but it has nothing to do with /bail.

Honestly it would be kinda dumb if /bail was removed.

It is because one kill doesn't have to be a 5.5k bounty. Use sawed off or T-G. 750 bounty per hit. And if you one shot with all pellets hitting (like 2 sawed off shots, mostly headshots) the second round of pellets don't count toward the bounty, just the kill. So that gives like a 3k bounty. 3k is about 5 minutes to mine off. But the bandits that are fully geared like to keep killing people and sheriffs (and sometimes even rob just for bounty) until they are like 20k+ (*cough* charlotte, joker, justfamouz... *cough*). And it's separate fights so they keep the bounty when they could just /kill and mine off less with only losses of ammo and maybe some meds.

This is what I meant by them not even processing when they can.

Still could have two allies at one base, one processing, one shooting. The one's processing are kind of helping with killing sheriffs but are making money while processing, the people who aren't processing are getting more of the sheriff kills and making more money from the heads.

 

No I'm telling you that 3 other bandits will be firing a shot at the sheriff at the same time practically one shotting. And also T-G is an ez no scope in a 5 block radius. I've hit 6 T-G headshots in a row on the practice server no scoping within a 5 block radius on 2 different people.

 

Yes but most of the time more than one person go after each sheriff.

 

That is why you need to git gud at sawed off...