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Bandit economy buff

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Hitchens, Jan 3, 2017.

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  1. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    I have recently realized how hard it is for medium skilled players without a rank to afford fighting. (Recently cos i myslef found it easy to while i was a whitename... Maybe cos i didnt need to buy gear cosi got tons from killing Nerf and later nike members.)

    Getting 1 set of fgihting gear costs around 25k for a bandit (asuming he doesnt have spares from old fights).

    This takes 3800s (1h 3 min 20s) to proc if the processed drug in case it is wg. Include the fact that you have to harvest and sell etc, and we can estimate that it takes aprox 2 hours to do the whole procedure.

    And it is obvious you might die during this time.

    This means that players without a rank can hardly afford fighting, at least not in maxed gear. Also non ranked players should be allowed to take part in the fun, so i have decided to precent this simple economical fix to the problem;

    Changes in processing drugs;
    Change the way processing time is calculated. Change it from (time/rank)- skill to (time-skill)/rank. Also lower the proccing times of drugs with around 1 sec each (havent done calculations on all o idk).

    This would mean wg would be:
    3-2s for whitenames instead of the current 4-3.
    1.5-1s for elites instead of the current 2-1s.
    The other ranks would be in between.

    This would simply make the difference between the ranks smaller, by buffing normal, vip, mvp and low level elites economy.

    Changes in harvesting:
    Make normal players get 2, vips 3, mvps 3.5 or 4 and elites 4 or 5 drugs.

    Making mvps get 3.5 and elites 4 would be preferred, but i am not sure if mario is too lazy to add a 50% chance for mvps to get 4 instead of 3.



    The point of these changes (proc and harvesting), is to make it so non ranked players could afford fighting. I have no personal stake in this since i myself have elite and my skill levels are high as i am global lvl 5.
     
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  2. charlottethegirl

    charlottethegirl Ex- Party JMOD

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    How can you get 3.5 of a drug? And you're acting like it's a massssive difference between the ranks. I imagine it takes like 45-50 mins to process for VIP and a little higher for ranks above...
     
  3. Grigglepuff

    Grigglepuff Proud follower of Randomcitizenish

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    I currently would classify myself as a "medium" skilled player. I am not rich nor poor but more just in the middle. Even with my rank it is still hard for me since I spend so much on armor, guns, potions, and ammo it's unbelievable. If I didn't truly love the game and the community and I was at my current skill level I would quit. It's extremely hard to get to even 400k. The only way is by processing during the night, which I still have to do often. If I could give this a +2 I would, this is very very important and would also help out a lot of non-ranked players at my skill level and below.

    **DISCLAIMER**
    I know a lot of you are thinking "well they have a rank why are they complaining?" This is still really important and the number 1 reason a lot of unranked players have a hard time getting into good teams.
     
  4. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    This is so true.

    Would be set do mvps have a 50% chance to get 4 instead of 5.

    Also it is a massssive differense between ranks. A Elite player who actually plays (and has some skill level) makes more than 3 times as much as an non ranked player proccing wg. The difference is somewhat smaller for players with lower ranks.

    But when you take the spending into account, non ranked players get like no profits compared to those with ranks. Non ranked players can often even loose money if they go fully geared.
     
  5. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    I think if anyone needs a money buff it's the Sheriffs.
     
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  6. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Feel free to make a thread about that one.

    Do you disagree with the fact that non ranked bandits need a buff in their economy? If so why?
     
  7. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    No, they do need a buff, but ranked players need a nerf for money.
     
  8. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    So instead of making non ranked players able to fight we make sure no one can fight sheriffs. Interesting way to make it fair.
     
  9. Grigglepuff

    Grigglepuff Proud follower of Randomcitizenish

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    Ranked players paid for a rank and should receive the perks that come with it. This idea will never happen. Why? Because Brawl won't implement something that would steer away players from buying a rank, that makes no sense at all. I do agree Sheriffs need a money buff, but that is not related to the thread.

    Not bashing your opinion, just replying with what would most likely happen.
     
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  10. DaddyPurest

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    This idea sounds awesome! It would make it so that there are a lot more fights going on and thus making the game more fun (fun is needed to being in new players :banghead:). I would definitely prefer if the drug processing part of the game goes down by one second... Over the farming boost.
     
  11. _Karst

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    +1, i most of the time use gear. when i get CUFFED or killed its all gone and it takes me about 1/2 hours to get it back. TBH im not making any profit the last 3 weeks coz of this problem.

    but you know brawl, they Always have a good xcuse so this is not ganna hapen.
     
  12. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    Its worth a try attempting to get someone to notice though, because you never know... with the new staff it might happen..?
     
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  13. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Interesting concept, economy buffs are.

    I already said in on Slack, and I will say it again. Nothing is going to ****ing happen to Wild West AT LEAST until War 2.0 is released and any up and coming gamemodes are into public beta, at which point randomcitizen1 could even have the remote possibility of an available coder. And, while we wait for that to happen, we have to come up with ideas that benefit everyone. Not just sheriffs, not just bandits, not just ranked, not just whitenames. If you have an idea, post it. If the community doesn't like it, simple. They don't like it, so try to find other ways to make them happy, and at the same time making the game better for everyone.

    At this point, the only thing that could save Wild West is a full rework. It's not possible to fix this one. I got demoted for recognizing that and trying to do something about it.

    Seriously guys. Open your eyes.
     
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  14. BlackKnight_7

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    I see where your going I struggle a lot from this I'm always buying sets plus guns+medals which is around 30k and for the inactive team/DSM/ ,Although I mainly process with Team Dev I am the only one processing so when I get arrested,which is part of the game but still, I would loose at least 40k and it is very hard for me to make money
     
  15. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    Yoda you speak like.
     
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  16. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Mmmhmmm. Incorrect you are. Correct term is “speak like me, you do."
     
  17. NeoGer

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    1.5-1 sec for ELITES, elites with level 1 or 10? If it is level one that means elites will have instant wg (0.0) or 0.5 per drug processed when they reach level 10?
     
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  18. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    No what i ment is 1.5 with level 1 and 1s with level 10.

    This comes from the formula
    (time-skill)/rank

    Where time is 3, skill is 1.0 (lvl 10) and rank is 2.0.

    The main change i suggest is to change the way processing times are calculated. Thr current formula

    (Time/rank)-skill is pretty stupid tbh, since it makes the inequality between ranks huge. Elites proc everything under 2s instantly.
     
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