Focus Thread - Indians: What would you like to see?

This is a good idea to have a different guild but I think that the sheriffs guns should not be available to everyone
This could work

 

I will totally be an Indian!

 

First I'll list some visible flaws (that stand out to me). Then I will comment some input/ideas when people start giving feedback.

1. Weapon Choice

Yes, this sounds like a good balance and very fair but let's analyze. Indians have pretty horrible weapons overall. Bows would (of course as said) need to be coded with minimal drawback. Melees? Yes, can be very beneficial for sneak attacks, and for charging in. But far away they are useless. Pistols, on the other hand, are quite useless unless they are given a buff. So, Indians are KOS to not just bandits, sheriffs too. If they are only allowed to choose from this poor weapon choice they will not be able to defend themselves properly. So the real problem IS NOT THE KOS, the real core problem is the weapon choice.

2. Chain Armor

Though this seems like a good idea, Chain is almost useless. It seems good in perspective, but it ultimately makes no sense. Indians are KOS to bandits and Sheriffs, and the highest thing they can protect themselves with is chain armor? Just a thought, but iron would make more sense.

Obviously, when this update is actually fully coded and being tested it will change, but here are some obvious ones I think that stand out to me.
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One thing I thought I would ever hear :V

I kind of agree with the point about gun choice by griggle. It seems like a good attacking choice but a rubbish choice for defending...

 

Hey it just sounds fun, and unless something has changed I think anyone can become a sheriff without an app, so I don't think I would want to be one then.

 

I think Indian would be an appealing role, if it's buffed a little bit. The combination of being kos all the time, only pistols, and weaker armor, I personally wouldn't want to play it.

A few simple buffs could be:
They get 1.5x the money each drug.
Everything they buy is really cheap
They have their own personal town; an Indian village where they are safe, and where only they can get to.
Giving them access to one rifle may be beneficial. Guns are just so Much better and faster than bows, I think it would be hard for them to get kills. Maybe making the rifle pretty expensive would work.
If it doesn't get buffed, I think this could be a good idea: so say there's a team cap of 6. Since Indians are a little weaker, letting an Indian count as a half of a person could work. Tell me if that sounds weird, I'll explain it better xd

 

The ability to throw bowies.
Maybe having a little map since they know the area.
The ability to live in Indian Camps (still PvP area) where they can craft special medicines for them or making rituals by throwing bacco in the fire for petitions to the Gods (maybe this could help the reputation system). This indian camp could be take over by a Indian team to their own use with a cap.
Adding sacred places for Indians where they save their gold and their art (a bank ) so we won't see Indians walking in a town cos they're kos (it'd not make sense).
Ability to dominate wolfes for their use.
To comestic stuff, when you get buffs or anything, you'd need to wear 'religion clothes' so it'd make more sense.
Re-texture the chain to something more indian'y.

 

If we can get one or both of these.

 

-1 to the speed and jump boost. That with an axe that three shots, would be utter hell for the other guilds to counter. Though I do agree that we should be focusing on making this guild a more popular one, I think that the best way to tackle the situation is by giving them a minor economic advantage. That being said, I believe it's a good idea to give Indians access to guns. That, combined with a faster horse, an axe that can 3SK, and a bow that can 2SK, give the guild a uniqueness PvP-wise that will appeal to some players.

 

I think indian is perfectly balanced BECAUSE IT CAN TRACK ANY PLAYER. Keep it how it is.

 

Well, since the game will still include sitting at a base for extended periods of time, this advantage is negated whenever players process, which is generally most of the time.

 

Well, there's a lot said, I have read the header of gameplan and this thread so far. It was described that well as I don't know what else to add. I will just say what comes to my mind.

1. About these speed and jump boost. Don't make it permament. Seeing Indian walking fast all the time is not the view most of us would like to see. Instead, make some alcohol or drugs which give Indians temporary speed or jump boost. These items shouldn't affect other guilds, they may only harm them.

2. What about towns? Will there be non-PvP zones? If so, how will Indians work in these places?

3. Indians shouldn't be able to track rogue because their matter is the bounty, not the crime (skipping the fact that they might track the nearest bandits regardless of their rogue status).

That's my thoughts. I'd like to see them discussed, unless some have already been mentioned in the Gameplan project, then sorry. It's 2:38 a.m., not feeling like reading the rest, gotta sleep then find out what's really going on.

 

Throwable hatchets

 

We already have lassos so xd