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Remove Banned Players from Leaderboards

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by SoCool21, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Fairly self explanatory, really. If someone's banned, they are probably doing something that's not allowed in order to get on the leaderboards (such as iMingo, who used tracers to get 4000+ kills on Wild West).
     
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  2. pandanielxd

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    What about people who get unbanned, is there an easy way to put them on it again? do their stats get reset because it was a fair ban but they appealed after a couple of months?
     
  3. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    If its a fair ban, the stats should be reset. If it was a false ban, obviously the stats wouldn't be reset. This could easily be done by letting a mod select if the stats should be reset or not when they deal with the appeal (and keeping a backup of the old stats, since eventually someone will inevitably chose the wrong option on accident).
     
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  4. Trogy

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    Thank you for bringing this up, I agree with you 110%.
    If a player is earning resources or farming stats in a game illegitimately, their stats for that server should be
    completely wiped clean.

    Only issue I can think of would be regarding false-bans.

    Also, how exactly do you think that this would this work best? Would it be set-up so that if a player is banned, their stats are cleared automatically?
     
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  5. Champloo

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    I agree, iMingos' kills is very hard to surpass, so its the best if he gets removed from the leaderboards.
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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  7. EmperorTrump45

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    What about people who got banned for being toxic but not hacking? If their stats are legit why should they be removed because they're banned?
     
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    This topic was discussed once before already: https://www.brawl.com/threads/24351/

    Basically the main issue is that being banned does not automatically equal unfairly gaining statistics. Punishments for chat offenses or for example DoX/DDoS have nothing to do with in-game stats, yet this would mean players who got banned for it would be removed from the leaderboard.
     
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  9. Lekosa1

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    Agreed, but disregarding everything stated on this thread I personally think being banned equals to not showing on the leaderboard. Why would the leaderboard show a player that doesn't even play? Well okay maybe for reputation/respect. Imo no banned player needs that, though.

    Regarding this:
    I feel like the stats should come back if the player gets unbanned. Unless the reason he/she got banned was the use of clients to boost his/her stats.
     
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  10. Hitchens

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    Explained here
    Edit: misread it. But could basicly be done in the same way when banning.
    Isnt it only fair that somone who hacks to get better stats gets their stats wiped? If they didnt hack, they dont get them wiped.

    And @Lord_Roke that thread is from 2014. Commenting on it would be gravedigging, wouldnt it?
     
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  11. EmperorTrump45

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    Why have leaderboards if you don't include the leaders?
     
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    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    We just dont want to include those who have used hacked clients to get better stats.
     
  13. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    That's not what Lekosa was talking about.
     
  14. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    I dont know what lekosa was talking about. Lemme read it

    Edit: ah i see. I cant really respond since you asked leko.
     
  15. Lekosa1

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    As a punishment for getting banned. It's incredibly easy to be just normal and if one gets banned it's his/her fault.
     
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  16. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Chat offences won't result in someone getting banned forever, whereas hacking will. Also, people DoX/DDoSing are rare cases. I don't think it'll be an issue if people who DoX/DDoS are removed from the leaderboard (if the player who got banned for DoX/DDoS had an issue with it, they shouldn't have broken the rules in the first place). However, having hackers like iMingo on the leaderboard is a bigger issue, especially since he's right at the top.

    Its not very often that players get banned for toxicity (especially since the continuous rules violation is no longer in effect, I believe, ever since the new warn protocol).
     
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    It is still in effect i think.
     
  18. EmperorTrump45

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    It happens more often than it did because of the new rules regarding continuous rule violations (i.e. why lionafp, onise, and others were banned). Toxicity isn't a reason to remove someone from the leaderboards. If their stats are legit then they should be on the leaderboard. It's like how I might think @Proterozoic is the world's biggest pinhead but that doesn't mean his absurd number of Archer kills should be erased from the record. They're like those old school trophies, they don't become irrelevant because of personal issues, time, or rust.
     
  19. Proterozoic

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    My 2 cents. I think if the player was banned in part for farming or hacking to get better stats, then of course they should be removed. If they weren't then they'd still get what they want. For other rules of course they shouldn't be removed because breaking rules necessarily equal being a bad player
     
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  20. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    The only problem I have with this is the stats that aren't illegitimately earned, such as playtime. It's sort of neat to see how much someone played...
     
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