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Closed staff apps for specific gamemodes

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by featherpaw, Mar 10, 2017.

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  1. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Hey guys! So I've been spending a lot of time listening around to see what the general community is upset by and how to fix it, and one recurring cry keeps rising above the others, specifically on ctf; why are staff apps closed?

    Staff have been telling us that it is because we don't want too many staff members for one gamemode, but I don't quite believe this to be the case. It doesn't match up with their other policies.

    For one, staff members are very critical of other staff members (especially ones who are applying that have a chance at being accepted). From my time being staff, I've noticed that most people don't seem to have a problem with leaving staff apps open because the idea is that the more staff the better.

    It's also important to note at this time, that staff members, once they reach mod, do not stay on one specific gamemode singularily. Therefore, I see no reason with leaving staff apps open. There may be applicants who are well suited for ctf staff, but can't apply because they're closed, or maybe we need more EU mods (we do, trust me) but none can apply beca use apps are closed. These people now either have to wait for apps to open again for their section, or learn a new gamemode on brawl.

    This isn't fair to them and I can't see it working well for staff anyway, because you'd be making someone well-versed in their gamemode attempt to learn another gamemode that they probably don't like, just so they can apply for that gamemode, be accepted, and immediately start working on the first gamemode anyway.

    This strange rule also conflicts with staff's activity policy. Common discussion in staff slack is over the need for more EU mods and more active mods in general, yet they're stippling their growth by closing off potential applicants specifically because there are too many mods for one gamemode.

    My suggestion? Keep applications open for all gamemodes in order to increase the amount of good staff applicants and eventually solve the issue with the lack of EU mods.
     
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  2. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    CTF has never needed an abundance of moderators and especially now when we have a great amount.
    CTF is moderated by a committee of mods (the team system more specifically) and they don't need extra mods just for the sake of having extra mods.
     
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  3. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    In my opinion there are way too many US mods in comparison to EU mods, I don't think they should remove US mods, but atleast not accepted them, we really need EU ones...
     
  4. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    They could do something along the lines of this if good people actually applied xdd
     
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  5. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    I like this suggestion!
     
  6. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe just change the tag of the gamemode you are applying for but still make the application for CTF mod? Like most recent applicants have done...
     
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  7. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Staff have started auto denying them for that reason though.
     
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  8. JaydenChadd

    JaydenChadd Former SMod / Community Manager

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    Brawl is not small enough to not needn't staff members. Staff applications should be open 24/7/365 for all gamemodes. Like feather said, doing so will solve the EU Mod problem over time.

    If I was a EU player applying for the CTF Junior Moderator position (assuming its closed) would you deny me or would you accept me just because I'm in the EU timezone? If you accept me, it's unfair for others, if you deny me, you're not helping the team.

    P.S #Feather4SMod
    Spread the word
     
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  9. BlueGuyARed

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    Personally, I want to see staff applications alter into a system more like Wiki Application rounds. A "batch" of people accepted at one time (which pretty much happens now for the most part), and then a couple week waiting period for everyone before applications are open again.

    There's nothing wrong with temporarily closing staff applications for a certain gamemode, but when they are opened and closed some sort of announcement needs to be made.
     
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  10. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    That actually wouldn't be a bad idea. Every month during the hack test, you promote new mods and applications reopen for jmods. Actually a really good idea. I never would've thought of that. ^-^
     
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  11. chainsxw

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    Nice suggestion, thread is well laid out too :smile:
     
  12. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    CTF has 2 EU mods, and neither of them are active in game. There are hours each day when no CTF moderator is online because of the EU timezone and so other mods from other gamemodes are having to fill in. Only yesterday one AU regular was accidentally banned by @RMST1 because they didn't know any better. Surely we're better off opening to the EU timezone so someone can fill that void, so that things like this won't happen. Vice Versa, the same thing applies to the other gamemodes too. There's obviously a limit to how many we should have, but right now we've got oversaturation of one timezone and not enough in the others. It's frankly ridiculous to close them
     
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  13. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    legit just read what i said above
     
  14. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    Except you can't apply right now, that's a shame isn't it
     
  15. Magnificent

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    I mean @Canoodle would open staff apps if she believed it was necessary.

    CTF is a completely different beast from the rest of Brawl's gamemode in the sense that the people who moderate it have a different sense of both humour and how much to tolerate from players. People can joke around and stuff without worrying about being punished harshly because they know CTF mods are typically easy-going and at best tell them to calm down when they know it's gotten out of hand. They also know 99.9% of the regulars don't hack, so they wouldn't ban them if they set off the autoban. That's mostly why other moderators from different gamemodes end up getting memed, because they don't handle things in the same manner. (Still ly guys, just the truth xd)

    I fully agree that CTF needs more EU mods and while it would be nice to have a few accepted to cover that timezone in which US mods can't cover, it's ultimately @Canoodle's decision.
     
  16. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Just because it's someone's ultimate decision, that does not mean we can't suggest good changes. I truly believe this is something worth fighting for. I really feel for the people who play ctf and want to help, but can't because they're closed. If any of the higher staff would reply to this with good supporting evidence as to why it shouldn't happen, I'd understand. But they haven't yet, which makes me think that there's no reason this shouldn't happen.
     
  17. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    I never said that people couldn't suggest good changes, hell the more the better, but that's the reality of the situation. That's all I was trying to say xd
     
  18. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Fair enough. However, ultimate decisions can be changed. That's what I'm trying to do here. I just want to help Brawl be the best server possible. Can't blame me for that. :smile:
     
  19. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Generally, I think CTF is currently fine in terms of moderators. Yeah, we could be lacking maybe 1 more EU mod, however if an obvious candidate existed I'm sure apps wouldn't be closed.
     
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