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Petition to give Pyrotheum one last chance! :3

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  1. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Hey guys! So recently there was a small misunderstanding with a fellow brawler; Pyrotheum. Our courageous, fantastic builder had been banned and demoted from the build team due to an abuse of power some time ago and had served his sentence well, thinking over his mistake and learning from it. A couple of days ago, he reapplied with the intent of helping brawl once more, and brought with him a new outlook. It was a breath of fresh air for many of us because he was a wonderful builder and friend of many. He was accepted by Rhoske and added to the build team once more, which was a time of celebration for all! However, there was a miscommunication and he was re-demoted, seemingly without warning. I think I can speak for all of us (especially those that originally gave him his +1 on his application) that Pyrotheum should be given that second chance. Brawl is a place of compassion and understanding. A place where people who've been banned (even permanently) can be forgiven and a place where staff members who've left us can be allowed to come back with open arms. This was all just a misunderstanding and if there is anyone here who believes in Pyrotheum, let your voice be heard! This will reach far across the network and maybe we can be the change we want to see.
     
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  2. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Minimum Brain Size

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    I have talked to pyro about this, and while what happened was regrettable the situation has been resolved. The admins' decision will not be overturned. Apologies for any confusion caused on my part.
     
  3. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Why are you taking that sitting down, Rhoske? Your decision matters. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing and standing up for what you believed to be the right decision. I know it's hard to do sometimes, trust me, but you're strong and this could make Brawl stronger as a whole.
     
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  4. AmbitionZ_

    AmbitionZ_ Highly Established Member

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    My only problem is, he has already had 2 shots as builder and abused both times. But I do agree he has learned, and he is a wonderful builder (so I've heard) so I agree with this
     
  5. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Minimum Brain Size

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    Admins have the final say on promotions, and I didn't take that into account this time - which I should've done, especially with a controversial candidate.
     
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  6. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    That may be the case, but they gave you build manager for a reason. If you thought he was ready, why didn't they trust you on it? I'm not blaming anyone here because what's done is done. I just like to understand why things work. I realize it was a miscommunication, but (at least to me) it seems like they didn't trust you enough to make the right decision. Did they explain why they demoted him?
     
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  7. AmbitionZ_

    AmbitionZ_ Highly Established Member

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    Nobody Blames you, you didn't do anything wrong, you made your decision, and it got reversed. That's not your fault
     
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  8. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Minimum Brain Size

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    Lack of trust
     
  9. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    didn't you trust him though? This just feels like undermining your authority. And didn't they trust you?
     
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  10. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Minimum Brain Size

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    Admins have more authority than mods

    They did, I made a mistake, we've moved on
     
  11. AmbitionZ_

    AmbitionZ_ Highly Established Member

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    You didn't necessarily make a mistake, you just made a choice the admins didn't approve of. It isn't a mistake, just a disagreement. Don't pin it on yourself when it isn't your fault
     
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  12. potatoesky

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    Lol Rhoske I find it pretty stupid that admins made you in charge of the build team applications but your opinion doesn't even matter. Why did they make you the build team manager if they're gonna end up doing the work alone anyway? Brawl never makes sense. Thanks for making me laugh :finger:
     
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  13. RyGuy

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    My honest opinion on this (I might not have all the info so don't yell at me pls):
    Rhoske made a call to promote Pyro to Builder. Then there was a miscommunication, as this was a special case due to Pyro's history. None of this is to be blamed on Rhoske or higher ups, it was just miscommunication, and higher up staff overruled the decision. Now, I feel bad for Pyro for all this happening. However, admins made a call, there was a miscommunication. That's all. No undermining of peoples authority, just miscommunication.
     
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    Welp not sure what to say, besides this hits the top most dramatic forum I've ever read. Really feather paw your acting like this guy was given a death sentence IRL. From what I've managed to gather is a builder was demoted 2 times and someone wants him do be redeemed. Demotions even if are wrongly communicated are still powerful in themselves. Also I think you [Featherpaw] should include the dates between demoted 1st and demoted 2nd as well as attempting to drop the drama.... I'm not trying to be offensive and I'm sorry if you take it this way, but honestly your post made my stomach cringe. That isn't the type of writing I personally think should be on the forums, instead they should be blunt and to the point with a little bit of commentary not some melodramatic Death-Or-Life kind of thing.
     
  15. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    This happens a lot though. Even with you and your banning. Were all of those miscommunications too? I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here, but this could've been avoided. and it isn't fair to get his hopes up, then crush them. He should've remained on the build team.

    Fair enough. Dramatic? Nah. You should read my literature. :wink: I feel pretty strongly about this and so I made a thread. I didn't make it seem like he got a death sentence at all, in my opinion of course, and I'm sorry it came across like that to you. However, the forums are for suggesting ideas, proposals, changes, and also getting to know community members. All threads are welcome (we even have a section for negative posts and rants). If you'd like some help getting around, I can help you out. Just hit me up sometime. ^-^
     
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  16. __Miracle___

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    ... M8 has anyone told you you are so frigging cheery? :grinning:
     
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  17. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    I'm not 100% sure if you're throwing shade at me with your first point, but that wasn't called for. There was a mistake made, and that has been admitted. It hurts the person that this happened, and I really do feel bad for this happening to Pyro. However, it was just miscomunnication between two parties, especially with this being a special case. Nothing more happened, no undermining of power, just a mistake, and it is something we honestly do feel bad about.
     
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  18. Magnificent

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    I don't believe you should be talking about others falsebanning.
     
  19. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I'd never throw shade at you ryan. You know that, but imagine how pyro feels. You think a sorry helps that? He left because he was so hurt. What happened to him is what happened to you when you banned someone and another staff member went behind you and unbanned them. You were pretty hurt by that too, and that's what I'm trying to stop people from feeling. I just don't want this to happen again to anyone else... you know how empathetic I am.

    Hahaha yes. I've also been told it's annoying too. XD friends? You said you were a writer on your profile. I am too. Maybe we can exchange stories sometime. :smile:
     
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  20. iamdroone

    iamdroone returned

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    It's been some time since he was removed from the build team. I think he has learned his lesson, and can deploy his building talent back into mcbrawl, to create new future maps we all are excited to play on!
     
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