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Petition to give Pyrotheum one last chance! :3

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by featherpaw, Mar 11, 2017.

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  1. __Miracle___

    __Miracle___ Active Member

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    Hahaha yes. I've also been told it's annoying too. XD friends? You said you were a writer on your profile. I am too. Maybe we can exchange stories sometime. :smile:

    Idk my stories I think would strongly oppose your cheerieness ;D I'm trying to be the writer who is super unerving because of how close to reality my stories are, however sometimes I lose track.
     
  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    I believe he deserves one last chance but if the higher ups feel they can't trust him, then they have the right to deny him.

    ok
     
  3. MrDasky

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    Fair that you want to give Pyro a second chance, I feel sorry for him too. But then you say that something like this should never happen again.
    We aren't perfect, we aren't robots, we are humans.
     
  4. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    So you think it should happen again? I said it shouldn't happen again and asked what was going to stop it from happening again. It's easy to say "sorry. We won't do it again." every time something like this does happen. It's another thing to actually not do it again. Given track records, I feel like sometimes brawl goes for the first option much more often than the second. I don't know if something like this has ever happened to you, but I don't think Pyro is ok with just a "sorry".
     
  5. MrDasky

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    I should maybe clarify that of course we don't want something like this to happen again, but we are humans and sometimes humans make mistakes. No one is so perfect that they never fail a task, not even top football players.

    I feel sorry for Pyro too, I do.
     
  6. SkullcrusherLD

    SkullcrusherLD Best-Known GSGer | Ex-War JMod

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    I just can present my point of view and that's exactly what I will do:

    First of all you should know I was always against accepting Pyro as a builder and I have voiced that several times. You may ask why? Pyrotheum has always been very immature while talking to me or to some of my friends or playing with us on War. And no, not only a few months ago, but until today. He didn't has my support and I am not giving it until I am sure he has changed.
    My second point is: Pyro wasn't only denied by Lord_Roke or by Chickenputty. Of course, Roke is always the right man to blame, but not this time please. Roke, Canoodle and Putty have decided that together and they all agreed. Moreover they weren't the only ones in the staff team. Many of us agreed with that decision and don't trust in Pyro.

    Nevertheless he shouldn't be accepted first and short time after that denied; that would hurt everybody. But that shouldn't change the result of the decision, because it was right.
    Brawl is giving people a second chance, but sometimes you have to proof it. Pyro did never so in my eyes.
    I won't support this petition, sorry.
     
  7. Champloo

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    How have I been immature to you recently?
     
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  8. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    Feather, you should really not make threads like these. Higher-ups made a decision, this thread is not necesarry, sorry, but it really isn't.
     
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  9. SkullcrusherLD

    SkullcrusherLD Best-Known GSGer | Ex-War JMod

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    I could hold a lecture about your recent immaturity on War. If you want me to, I can explain your several abuses as a GSG mod (I think the last one was ~1 or 2 month(s) ago), your continously hate against GSG members or general chat issues I have seen.
    Anyway, I am talking about my personal impression and it didn't play any role in the admins' decision, so that shouldn't bother you too much.
     
  10. Champloo

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    I'm really wondering where you get the 'hate against GSG members' from, because I dont hate GSG members, its just a clan. And the kicking was over 2 months ago, and the last time only 3 people got kicked.
    The whole point of this situation is the fact that I was first accepted by the build team manager, who in my opinion should have the choice of accepting someone one or not.
     
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  11. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    On CTF, people don't really get second chances, and I'm of a similar mindset. I can't really advocate for him to be reinstated given his past, but I would say this was extremely regrettable way to go about doing it. The way it was handled looks honestly just like a massive d*** move, and I really can't blame @Pyrotheum for being really upset about it. Sorry man, this isn't how it should have gone about
     
  12. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Why does everyone assume that 1) I'm not allowed to make threads asking for change and 2) that higher-ups are strange people who are always right and should be trusted 100% without a doubt? If we're so sure a mistake was made, why does Pyro have to suffer for it instead of the higher ups? It could have just as easily happened like this. Pyro gets accepted by Rhoske. Higher ups say, "wait what? No no no no we can't do that". Rhose says he thought it was the best move. Higher ups say, "Ok. Just try to consult us next time". Rhoske says ok. Pyro keeps his builder rank. No one gets hurt and the miscommunication is fixed.
     
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  13. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    They thought he would've been denied, after he got accepted they didn't want him in the build team so he's not build team anymore. The higher-ups are called higher-ups for having more power than the others, why else???
     
  14. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I had thought they would've been higher ups because they care about the server, work hard to make it better, read through suggestions, communicate with the server, and are generally friendly, helpful people who went above and beyond the call of duty.
     
  15. SweetLava

    SweetLava The Sweetest of Lava's

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    Pyro hasn't always been the most mature player, that may be true. However, I haven't seen him do anything unacceptable or immature recently. He's not going to be moderating on a server, he will just be building for Brawl.
    If there was a miscommunication between the staff (which happens and that's okay), Pyro shouldn't be the one to deal with the consequences. @Rhoske You clearly accepted him because you thought he's a good builder and that he's matured, there aren't really any other reasons. As Build Manager your views, thoughts and opinions should be expressed to the higher ups. You could of said "Sorry I didn't consult with you first, however, I do believe Pyro has changed and he's a damn good builder and I would like to give him another chance". It's like you just gave your lunch money up without a fight (higher ups I'm not calling you bullies, it's all love). If after you said something like that and they still were keen on their decision well fair enough, you could of at least been like "I tried, sorry". Instead you're here saying it was a mistake, I don't think you took into account Pyro's feelings there.

    EDIT: To the higher ups: In all respect, don't assume that one shall be denied. If you don't want them on the team you easily communicate your opinion to the build manager, so he can deny the applicant. :v
     
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  16. Proterozoic

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    Or in response to all this, if you are going to make sure a player is denied, make sure it's done before they get promoted
     
  17. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    No one says you can't, just that this thread is quite pointless IMO. It's not gonna reinstate pyro, even if he gets a lot of support. Look at how much we have asked for an SS protocol, and it's still not here.

    I doubt I can find a single person who trusts a higher-up 100%. Nevertheless, they're the ones who have the final call, we can ask for change, but ultimately they still hold the final decision.
    This is so flawed IMO. Pyro has abused in the past, and therefore the admins do not trust him. Even if Rhoske simply says it's the best decision, there's gonna be an argument. A simple "I believe this is for the better" wouldn't suddenly change a brain cell in the admins to suddenly trust pyro. Just try and imagine anything like this working in a business or something, I don't see it ever working.

    @Pyrotheum dont get me wrong, I support you being a builder, but I just feel that there is no point fighting for it. I'm sorry.
     
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  18. Champloo

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    Yeah, I understand but I just like building ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  19. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I believe you can be a builder once again, but it might take time to gain the trust of the admins.
     
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