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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Shado__, Mar 12, 2017.

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  1. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    2 things:
    1). Just because you didn't know it was a rule doesn't actually mean it's ok for you to get away with it. You broke the rule and you should accept those consequences because you did break them
    2). I don't think anyone should have to explain to you that threatening people with death is not ok. It's basic common sense
     
  2. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    You have more than enough ways to get informed on what the rules are, you choosing not to inform yourself is not an issue with the staff member that followed the staff protocol.
     
  3. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    It's KIT bro. Trust me, I was fighting you earlier due to the fact it wasn't hard to kill you. I saw that as an advantage to get free soup. Anyone else would of done the same thing. But there were more people other than you, but you always happened to come first in my way. So "targetting", wouldn't be a thing. Unless you can prove that he was purposely targetting you because of personal reasons. But SoCool probably didn't really know you, so why "target" you?
     
  4. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    lol

    or you could, y'know, not say any of that sh*t and avoid stupid discussions like this

    No you don't understand that you can't go against the rules because if you did you wouldn't be saying things like "I'm going to kill you" (which are clearly against the rules) in chat.

    Apologize? For banning you for death threats?

    That's rich.

    Tbh they're both bad because you're telling someone that you want them to die, either by your actions or something else. However, telling someone that you're going to kill them is worse because 1) it threatens action on their life and 2) it's illegal (you can get arrested for making these kinds of threats).

    What @Miskey said.

    You're not? Because that seems to be the only justification for why you think you should be unbanned:

    Nice.

    You created this "experience". You wouldn't have gotten banned if you were capable of managing your behavior online. Since you're not, you got banned. End of story.

    What your predicament is, is that you're immature and you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Oh so since this is Minecraft PvP it makes statements like "I'm going to kill you" less terrible/stupid to say. Wow. That kind of reminds me of all those people who said "this is the internet" to justify their immaturity.

    Maybe you should have thought about how your comment would have been perceived by literally anyone else before you posted it in chat.

    So it's staff's fault for enforcing the rules? There are kids who play on Brawl's servers and seeing chat messages such as yours are the last thing they need to see more of. Let me put it this way: if you had taken a moment and thought about the server rules, you could have avoided getting banned because the rules do not incorporate leniency for death threats/wishes, and it could have been a great experience for all of us.

    Wow this quote is ironic in more ways than one!

    Your arguing and failed attempt to attack SoCool in this thread shows a complete lack of remorse.

    Why are you seemingly incapable of waiting a week, getting unbanned, and moving on with your life?

    What is obvious is that you have no clue who SoCool is or what he does for Brawl day in and day out.

    Your flame is lame.

    Maybe more people would think you "can change" if you didn't go on the forums spew a few paragraphs of bullsh*t about one of Brawl's best staff members instead of, you know, accepting the explanation (because you broke the rules), waiting a week, and moving on with your life.

    You didn't think, for one second, that saying "I'm going to kill you" in chat, on a Minecraft server that advertises to kids, might have some repercussions?

    [​IMG]

    REALLY?
     
  5. Shado__

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    1) I didn't intentionally break the rule. That being said, I understand that I can't just say "Oh, I didn't mean to" and get away with it. There is a reason that there is an appeal forum. People that honestly show regret and sincerely apologize for their mistake and really do enjoy and miss playing on the server should be able to appeal.
    2) It was me and a friend, messing around. I didn't actually mean to hunt him down and murder him.
     
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    That is kinda what I said... death wishes are a 1 hour mute on the first offence, 12 hour mute on the second offence. Death threats are a week kick on the first threat, and if my memory serves me correctly, 30 days on the second threat (I've never had to punish for threats that much, fortunately). Also, its not my fault I had to ruin your week. I don't like enforcing chat rules, I disagree with the vast majority of them. I didn't kick you by choice, I kicked you because I had to.
    Brawl takes threats very seriously. I personally couldn't care less if someone threatens to kill me over the internet unless they had my address - I'd just disregard them as a tosser who needs to get some more sunshine. But, I have to enforce the rules, whether I like them or not. Its not up to me.
    This is the protocol moderators follow when someone makes a threat (paraphrased, since leaking quotes is not allowed):
    "Threats are the worst chat offenses and at Brawl we are very strict about them. If someone threatens someone else, take a screenshot of the threat and use /warn <player> THREAT <message>."

    That is the exact thing I did. I wasn't supposed to resolve it without any punishment, otherwise I would be disregarding the protocol I've been told I have to follow.
    Yeah, I've been told to kill myself over the internet while I was having suicidal thoughts. I know how much it sucks and I know exactly how much worse it makes your life when you're already having struggles away from the internet. However, the protocol is protocol. Personally I'd make "kys" a more stricter chat offence but its not up to me.
    But that's not how things work here. If you make a threat, you need to wait out the ban. Its as simple as that. Second chances are a thing, you can enjoy that privilege in a week when you get unbanned.
    That's a bold statement to make considering you barely know me. When I joined the staff team I made a promise that, even if it took me years, I would not leave permanently until I revived HG. Even when time constraints forced me to resign back in January, I still joined the staff team again as soon as life allowed me to. I've also gone after literally every HG report that I've seen in-game; the only exceptions being any made while I was in a competitive CTF match.
    Think logically for a second here. If I was bias towards you, how do you know this? Let's say I do have a strong dislike for you (which I do not, I have no reason to, but for this example just pretend that I do). How exactly would you know that I'm acting bias? You don't know how I'd act if someone who I'm good friends with made a threat. You're assuming that I only punished you because I dislike you, whereas no matter who you are, I'd still give you a punishment for making a threat.
    "How dare you give me a ticket, officer! I did not know speeding was illegal!"
    How could you not have intentionally wrote a death threat? Did you trip and fall over onto your keyboard or something?
     
  7. Proterozoic

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    Well you did, and now you have to face the consequences. You had plenty of opportunities to read the rule and it's basic common sense for you to realise you shouldn't be doing that... I seem to be repeating myself here
    Then why are you still disputing this? You can argue this all you want, the excuse isn't good enough. You're wasting your time and making yourself look less remorseful in the process.
    See above, you ranting about it makes you look less remorseful the more you argue it. To be honest at this point I think you're just upset you got banned, not that you made the comment.
    Jokes already explained above by others
     
  8. StrikerSly

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    Couldn't you literally have just private messaged your friend? This all could have been avoided by typing 4 extra characters (/msg) in chat.

    And you show no signs of apology or regret; instead, you show signs of trying to prove how correct you are and how incorrect the protocol is.
     
  9. BAWSS5

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    [Redacted]

    Edit: alright, I Googled it. Apparently you can have a death wish for someone else, but I have literally never heard anyone use that before.

    In either case, 'I'm going to kill you' is exceptionally tame, and banning for that is quite excessive.
     
  10. 19Cameron91

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    "I hope you die in a fire" is a death wish. "I swear to god I'm gonna kill you" is a death threat.
    "You keep jumping in front of cars; do you have a death wish?" is too minor to punish.
     
  11. BAWSS5

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    So what you're saying is, you can private message a 'death threat' and it's fine, but making it public is bannable.
     
  12. 19Cameron91

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    It would've helped prevent him from getting banned if he PMed his friend, but if his friend /chaterported him, he would've still gotten banned, because /chatreport gets PMs as well.
     
  13. StrikerSly

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    Why would his friend chatreport him lmao

    It was his friend, and he said he was joking, so yes, that's exactly literally what I'm saying
     
  14. NickManEA

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    If I were SoCool21 I would do whatever he did. Follow the protocol even if I wish it looked slightly different. That's what staff does. Protocols aren't decided by lower staff members but administrators and mainly Lord_Roke.
    SoCool21's job was to follow the protocol, he couldn't do otherwise.
     
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