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Idea Sponges

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Tuumai, Mar 22, 2017.

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Remove sponges from spawn?

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  2. No

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  1. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I saw intresting ''bug'' or what ever u wanna call, it was pretty annoying. Anyways we were fighting a p4 guy in spawn suddenly he went in sponge launched his self at air and logged off and we did not have chance to kill him cause it was pretty damn hard to sponge my self and try to kill him cause it needs like 4 hits. So his combat logger was in air if no one did not understand. So if this ''bug'' cant be fixed or do something about it so i got idea to remove sponges what do u think? let me know in comments
     
  2. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    Sponges are a part of Survival PvP/Raid - They have been in the gamemode's history and I know a lot of people like them, and enjoy them. I was guessing this might happen for a while, and that people would exploit it, but the simple fix is to add gravity to loggers rather than removing sponges.
     
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  3. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Gamemode history did they even work in 1.8 survival pvp?
     
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  4. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    In 1.8 Survival PvP, yes, for most of it. There were points where they were broken, but for the majority of that map they worked.
     
  5. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    How about when u dont have spawn prot u will not able to use sponges?
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This seems like the best solution, since PvPing and having someone launch of a sponge would be weird.
     
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  7. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Either no sponges in PvP or people should just carry a bow for when someone does this.
     
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  8. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    PvP with sponges is great fun (especially with the 1.8 Sea Temple Spawn - Since there were tonnes of sponges). I wouldn't want to remove that, since it would also mean using sponges out of spawn at your bases etc. wouldn't work (unless only the sponges in spawn didn't work without PvP protection but that is just becoming more complex than it needs to be). Adding gravity to loggers fixes this issue.
     
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    #8 Eil, Mar 22, 2017
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  9. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Disable sponged within 512 blocks away from spawn. Problem solved.
     
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  10. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Misky the thing is u cant shoot loggers with bow :/

    Eil i see you at pvp reaaaally rarely. We should ask people who actually pvp everyday and what do they think sponges in pvp

    And we are talking about sponges in spawn just like carnotauros said disable sponges 512 blocks away?

    Alright seems like u mods should ask smods/admins about this and ask if u guys would disable sponges if u loose spawn prot.
     
  11. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    I have played Survival PvP/Raid for 3.4 Years (since it started) - I am also usually on Raid for over an hour each day. You don't see me all the time though, but I see you :wink:
    The general idea of this thread has been lost. The original problem was that people were sponging into the air, then logging, meaning their loggers could not be killed easily. The fix for this was adding gravity to PvP loggers (looking into this).

    Disabling sponges within 512 blocks and only for people without spawn protection is slightly trickier to do, and is likely to cause more glitches. People frequently use sponges within 512 blocks for parkours, or just for a bit of fun. Not everyone on Raid is PvPing all the time, and disabling sponges within 512 is unfair on those players, especially when the problem is solvable without the need for changing sponges.
     
  12. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Do not fret, we've brought this up to a dev and have asked him to hopefully try to fix it by adding gravity to loggers. If it takes longer than we hope or they're simply too busy then we'll come up with another solution for the time being. Thank you for voicing your concern and we are looking into it!
     
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  13. ibnc

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    If you did this then you wouldn't be allowed to use sponges anywhere you went besides spawn.
     
  14. SaltWood

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    Just gonna add this here but sponges make it really annoying when in p4 fights because it extremely helps people kite and at the end of the at the fight dies off.
     
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  15. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I agree with you in fights its rly annoying when people use sponges thats why it should be when u loose spawn protection ur not able to use sponges
     
  16. Carnotauros

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    Nooo. Sponges are useful in builds! Disable them within 512 blocks away from spawn.
     
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  17. SaltWood

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    They should make it that you cant use sponges in spawn if you lose spawn protection. Everyone would benifit from it.
     
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  18. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    Sponges were annoying when I played and continue to annoy me :confused: +1
     
  19. DreadfulDNA

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    To me, this is almost the same situation as enderpearls, at the least, very similar. I have been trying to concise my thoughts to make a direct post on this thread, so here it goes. Honestly, I am opposed to removing sponges from spawn, and enderpearls, however I believe I have already lost that battle. When you are pvping someone, it is not like they are the only ones with access to the sponges, you can just as easily follow them on sponges. The same argument can be made for enderpearls. However, I do see your argument, and understand how frustrating it is, but it is a part of the game, just like debuffs, or any other nuisance that is a part of Raid.
     
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  20. Speedcell

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    The problem is when you exploit sponges. Imagine this situation: You are chasing someone and he runs towards a sponge in order to get launched and reach the end portal so he can just ./spawn and get away with it. It's annoying and kinda frustrating. Tp'ing away from the end without cooldown is already a thing, sponges just make it worst. Adding 1min of pvp tag for sponges would be the best solution in my opinion.
     
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