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Idea Remove Team Caps

Discussion in 'Raid' started by TwisterPvP, Mar 30, 2017.

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Do you think that Team Caps should be removed?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. TwisterPvP

    TwisterPvP Raid Mod / Squirtle

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    Hello there ladies and gents. Today we are all gathered here to discuss team caps.

    Team Caps are set at 8 people per team.

    But what is the point of them?

    Teams just make a new team and ally with that team meaning literally nothing gets solved. It's simply just an annoyance. They just don't work.

    Now, there is one reason why team caps need to be there. The fact that you can just invite 50 alts into the team and get 50 koth keys.

    As this is an issue, I've thought of a couple of ways to combat this. Firstly we could come up with a system where people only get keys if they are within 50 blocks of the koth.

    One other big reason why team caps should be removed is the fact that if you have 10 friends, then you cannot be in a team with them all and this means that eventually 2 of the people will just not play raid. It's as simple as that. It's stopping people from playing raid.

    I want to hear what you all think about this. I've just written some rough notes on the matter without any real order.

    Thanks
     
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    #1 TwisterPvP, Mar 30, 2017
  2. SillyPickles

    SillyPickles Well-Known Member

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    basically the only reason this whole team cap thing was implemented is because of oracle and he's gone now lmao there is literally no point in having the team limit capped to 8. at this point it's nothing but an annoyance.
     
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    #2 SillyPickles, Mar 30, 2017
  3. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I truly agree with @TwisterPvP there is no point for team cap. I know some mod made a forum post about team cap limit and people voted for 8 limit but now people just dont like it anymore. So let people decide should it be removed.
     
    #3 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  4. DreadfulDNA

    DreadfulDNA Well Known Member

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    I am not opposed to removing the team cap. However by removing it, it removes the incentive for competitiveness. Obviously, teams already "ally" instead of competing against each other, but it would further contribute to this. With Raid currently haveing already such a low player base, it would be hard to track raids and PvP because everyone is on the same team. That would be my only concern with removing the team cap.
     
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    #4 DreadfulDNA, Mar 30, 2017
  5. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    I lean towards removing them, but we can raise the cap limit.
     
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    #5 19Cameron91, Mar 30, 2017
  6. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    KOTH is one reason why team cap is so low. But what if you only get the koth key if you are inside the koth area?
    Another reason why it is there is because it's supposed to making it easier for new players starting smaller teams, but people just bypass the cap by making many teams and allies. So there's no pint of having it at 8. +1
     
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    #6 Carnotauros, Mar 30, 2017
  7. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    We would have the same problem again ''One other big reason why team caps should be removed is the fact that if you have 10 friends, then you cannot be in a team with them all and this means that eventually 2 of the people will just not play raid.''
     
    #7 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  8. SillyPickles

    SillyPickles Well-Known Member

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    eh i kinda agree but i also think there's already barely any competitiveness the way things are. it's mainly the community's fault not the team caps
    i personally don't see the point of having a team cap overall. like i said, it was only implemented because of oracle getting sick of being outnumbered. if team caps were to be removed all that will happen is teams get bigger. before team caps, everything was fine. and there was more players before

    youre right about the koth thing being a problem but there is sooo many different solutions for getting around that
     
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    #8 SillyPickles, Mar 30, 2017
  9. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Why not just give 3-5 koth keys to the highest ranked member of the team that wins the koth online to stop abusing the koth keys?
     
    #9 Daveeeeeeeee, Mar 30, 2017
  10. DreadfulDNA

    DreadfulDNA Well Known Member

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    I agree. That is why I am not opposed to removing the team caps, nothing much will change if they are removed, it's just nicer for the bigger teams like Vanta/Meta.
     
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    #10 DreadfulDNA, Mar 30, 2017
  11. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I was saying the same before this post, but 8 would be better cause its always been 8 :wink:
     
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    #11 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  12. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Weird number though and if they keep it all for themselves...
     
    #12 Daveeeeeeeee, Mar 30, 2017
  13. PingWoo

    PingWoo Well-Known Member

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    Remove it. NOW!
     
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    #13 PingWoo, Mar 30, 2017
  14. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    EXACTLY RIGHT NOW!!
     
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    #14 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  15. DreadfulDNA

    DreadfulDNA Well Known Member

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    What's to say they don't keep the 3-5 amount you suggested to themselves? Either way, one member receiving all of the keys is too OP.
     
    #15 DreadfulDNA, Mar 30, 2017
  16. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Thats true so savage...I GOT AN IDEA 8 keys just drop from the sky middle of the koth area like ender dragons xp?

    Yeeea thats kinda true we gotta figure sumthing
     
    #16 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  17. DreadfulDNA

    DreadfulDNA Well Known Member

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    Then anyone could scoop the keys, regardless of who actually won the KOTH.
     
    #17 DreadfulDNA, Mar 30, 2017
  18. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    U think some randie can steal keys middle of 20 vanta members GL
     
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    #18 Tuumai, Mar 30, 2017
  19. number_J

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    In other words, anyone playing raid long enough is already teamed/truced with each other and its incredibly difficult for any new member to settle in the same scenario without joining already existing team.
    As for team caps, I share same vision as Dna, with one difference : team friendly fire should be scaled to the number of team members in some way.
     
    #19 number_J, Mar 30, 2017
  20. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Keep the randies away from there then.

    How would that work?
     
    #20 Carnotauros, Mar 30, 2017
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