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Indian Trading

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Chilled_67, Apr 4, 2017.

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Should this be implemented?

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  4. This would be cool to add once more necessary updates are put into place

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  1. Chilled_67

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    Introduction:

    I think it would be a cool idea to implement some sort of "trading" with indians, whether that trading is for money or other items. This would be a legal activity, that would be an easy, but not great source of money. Basically this is an idea/activity for inexperienced players who can't compete at drug processors, or who don't want to spend hours mining. This idea also benefits more experienced/veteran players who may have extra weapons/pots that are a pain to have, but at the same time you hate to throw them out. This idea would implement indians in a different way than just killing and looting them.

    New NPC:
    Though you are probably asking yourself, "Indians are hostile, how could we trade with them". This idea of a "non hostile" indian in terms of wild west could come in two ways,

    1. There could be indian "trading representatives" in towns. This npc would act like other shopkeepers, exchanging either gold or items for gold or items.

    2. There could be a non hostile indian camp, where this npc would be present (and other non hostile indians could be found).

    Physical Trading:
    Now you are probably asking yourself, what would you trade with indians? Well here are items I think would be good to trade and their prices.

    What you can sell to Indians;

    Food/Animal Items:
    10g each - Cow Meat (dropped from cows, could increase their spawn rate so they don't just spawn in bases)
    20g each - Cow Hide (dropped from cows, ^)
    10g each - Sheep Mutton (dropped from sheep, ^)
    20g each - Sheep Wool (dropped from sheep, ^)
    10g each - Rabbit Meat (dropped from rabbits, ^)
    20g each - Rabbit Pelt (dropped from rabbits, ^)
    10g each - Chicken Meat (dropped by chickens, ^)
    20g each - Chicken Feathers (dropped by chickens,^)

    Legal Guns: (similar thread here: https://www.brawl.com/threads/65811/ )
    500g each - Carcano
    275g each - Volcanic
    100g each - LeMat
    330g each - Blunderbuss

    Armor (variable d represents remaining durability):
    Diamond Helmet - d/363 x 600
    Diamond Chestplate - d/528 x 1600
    Diamond Leggings - d/495 x 1000
    Diamond Boots - d/429 x 800

    What Indians can sell to you;
    500g each - Indian Bow
    10g each - Arrow


    Purpose:
    As stated above, this would benefit both new players and veteran players. Selling items gained from animals helps inexperienced players get money and hopefully get more hooked on wild west. This also adds an activity (hunting animals) that isn't as dangerous as drugs, not as grindy as mining, and not totally worthless in terms of money (sorry all of you lumberjacks out there). This benefits experienced players by allowing them to sell usually useless items including legal guns, and those pesky unstacked pots. The very low prices all around are so that players don't necessarily need to keep and sell their worthless items, but if they want to keep them, there is a benefit. The prices for indian bows and arrows are expensive, mainly because the purpose of this is to not neglect indian camps. Hopefully the high prices for these two items will make newer players go to indian camps and not just buy it from the shopkeeper.

    Would be accessible by both sheriffs and bandits, as I know sheriffs don't have a lot of need for legal guns and similar items that are included when they respawn.

    Summary:
    1. Trading with indian inspired npc
    2. Sell items that are otherwise unwanted
    3. Adds a new activity for players to do (in terms of hunting animals)

    4. Can buy items from Indians, for a fairly expensive price that can be easier obtained from actually fighting indians


    // Feedback on prices is greatly appreciated as this will affect the entire economy
    // Feedback on the entire thread in general is also appreciated
     
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    #1 Chilled_67, Apr 4, 2017
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  2. ZeFazzy

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    LeMat xD
     
  3. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    I like the ideas a lot. I'll reply with my feedback later, I gotta do something atm xD
     
  4. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    Solid idea, would allow miscellaneous items some value. However...
    -1. You should never make starter items sellable, even for low prices.
     
  5. Chilled_67

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    Edited, thanks for the feedback :smile:
     
  6. NeoGer

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    If this gets added, I would finally find a use for my broken diamond and 100 carcs :V
    +1
     
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    The arrows seem a bit overpriced.

    So does the animal sellings, you don't find that many animals that often, for about an hour I'd say you would make 500-1k gold...that's not worth it. Maybe if they increased the spawn rate of animals.

    Everything else looks awesome!!
     
  8. Chilled_67

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    Arrows are overpriced mainly due to the fact that I want players fighting indians and not just buying their gear from them.
     
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  9. AguaDeLaMiseria

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    I like the idea because of the Gameplan idea of implementing guilds so an Indian NPC sounds really cool. Numbers may change but in general +1.
     
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    It'd also be nice to be able to sell diamond armour to Indians. Here's my suggestion for the prices:

    Helmet: 600g
    Chestplate: 1600g
    Leggings: 1000g
    Boots: 800g

    Each price would be multiplied by the percentage of durability remaining. So a helmet with 50% durability left would sell for 300g. This'd allow sheriffs to finally have a use for diamond armour, and allow bandits to get rid of armour with barely any durability left.

    As for the suggested prices, these seem good. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the price of the Indian Bow.

    This is very expensive compared to legal guns which are a lot better than the Indian Bow. Honestly, I think they should just be 500g.
     
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    Why so?

    I will send my feedback soon after I will be online next time.
     
  12. Hitchens

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    Solid idea and good idea. Not sure what the beat rating I can give you is, so Ill stick with an elite honor.
     
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    If the durability was 50% wouldn't the diamond helmet sell for 300?

    If the helmet had 25% durab it would sell for 150.?
     
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    /s I changed the prices as I wrote the reply, didn't change that part
     
  15. Chilled_67

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    Yeah I mean I am kinda thinking I don't want them to sell indian bows or arrows, mainly because I don't want it to outprice legal guns, but I also want players going to indian camps.

    I also like the idea of selling diamond armor. Added that and formulas for each piece based on your prices. Thanks for the feedback :smile:
     
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  16. CrossBoone

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    ah okay :smile:
     
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