Why is Screensharing invasive?

Whew. Ok. Long story incoming.

Imagine you're playing and hacking and a mod catches you with hacks, but isn't sure if you are hacking, so they ask for a screenshare. Now, if you say yes, you're expected to actually ss right then and there with no time to react, because that could give you time to delete everything. This means that you're expected to actually maneuver your way through to get to the .minecraft folder and then to your mods folder. This could leave a lot of your computer information out in the open. Now imagine you don't have a shortcut to get right to your .minecraft folder. This means going through your C: drive, which stores everything you own, then to your appdata, then to roaming, and finally to .minecraft. that leaves a lot of room for snooping (accidently or purposefully).

 

It's invasive because people know how to hide clients now, for example client settings directories being made in C: and people running clients off of flash drives so all they need to do is remove it when they get screenshared. Staff don't feel like digging through people's stuff, but they wouldn't if they learned how client directories are made and how people hide them nowadays

I support screensharing since I know how to actually find clients rather than banning people for having a mod thats a byte in size higher than the allowed memory

 

Normally other servers would give about 3 minutes to join TS, so they can close unwanted programs first. Also, they're frozen, if they log out staff would ban them.

Inside the minecraft window -> resource packs -> open resource pack folder -> click on .minecraft

 

You're forgetting about the directories on the left side pane. As well as possibly seeing programs on their desktop. Most ss websites don't allow you to simply show one program's screen. Even with the shortcut, info is visible to the person Conducting the ss.

There's also the 3 minutes of time you have to delete the modpack. Doing so won't kick you from the game. It will simply make it so you can't use it when you're unfrozen.

 

honestly though, what can we do with what's visible on the side? not like we're gonna want to look through their school work or something

 

Deleting the modpack updates the last modified time of the folder, which mods can ban for

 

I actually agree with this thread.

You can literally google "how to find .minecraft folder" and copy/paste what it gives you. That takes you directly to the folder without looking at any other files. Prob with this is it could be a fake .minecraft folder. Servers make you go to .minecraft through resource pack folder

Detected easily with a screenshare tool.

Some servers looks at skype/discord, emails, and search history. I believe that's the part of screenshares that is invasive. But brawl doesn't need to do all that. All a mod would do is check the .minecraft and run a SS tool. Quick SS guide:
1. Give them 5 mins to join TS and have them load up a join.me
2. Check snooper settings
3. Go to .minecraft through resource pack folder (PC) or google how to find .minecraft (mac)
4. Check mods (and sizes)
5. Check recycle bin date modified
6. Check mouse software for macros
7. Go into process hacker
8. Run searcheverything
9. Use an SS tool
10. Click on apple and then go to recent items (mac)

Not that detailed but that'll get almost all of the cheaters on brawl.

All the banned players support screenshares

 

@chickenputty help me out here...

 

It's invasive. People see private stuff. Staff are able to see stuff they shouldn't. Chickenputty said no already. This has been brought up millions of times, no need too again.

Kinda weird how you out of all people make this thread. After denying to SS on other servers, and mods on Brawl wouldn't be the greatest at conducting SS's. If you ever get "unbanned", and this ever rises to be allowed, clearly you would play with the mods since you know more about this than them.

 

What private stuff do you keep in your .minecraft folder, Jay?

The 2nd part of your post is probably true. The only real reason I see not to screenshare is it means some closet cheaters won't be banned. Right now Brawl is a server that sometimes bans legit players, so ghost clients aren't a problem.

It's a choice between
1. a few cheaters and no false bans
2. no cheaters and a few false bans

idk which is better or worse, but I feel strongly that the "invasive" arguement is bs

 

Stuff you wouldn't like to know hehehe, but seriously. Things on your desktop, they could find out your name. Etc... the list goes on. Kinda no point in making an arguement when it already was decided that SS's aren't going to be implemented. Plus, I have faith in our Kit mods to crack down those hackers with help of other mods

 

You can't delete anything that's running in your Minecraft Client while you have it open.
And why wouldn't they trust Staff with their first name? Most PC's are called as example "[Person X]'s Computer.
What would we do with that Information?

Kit's not even the biggest problem from what I know v:

 

Usually I think ss'ing is okay, and staff finding personal information wouldn't do any harm in any way because why would staff use that information? But in this community, where staff/players could know eachother on a more personal level, it's bound to mess up the moderator's impression of the player theyre trying to ss. It's not even personal stuff that could be leaked, could be someone else's.

 

We should be able to trust our mods not to leak personal info

 

By opening the Resourcepack folder and going to the .minecraft folder, I don't think you can find anything personal.

 

But it surely will scew the mindset of the mod when they play the same gamemode

Anything on the desktop can be personal.

Also who says screensharinf works? Now that vape lite is out, screensharing will have no point.

 

Rather than using Vape Lite and trying to hide hacks people should just hack blatantly

also vea ghost client is better

 

honestly prefer blatant cheaters,