Hardcore Games Revamp Ideas

You've got to be kidding me. I told you, this is going to backfire. I'm going to say it again:
SoupPvP would not exist without HG.
No Soup HG split and damaged the community here and on MCPvP.
No Soup HG is also going to get hate from me (already is) and it will scare away regulars/veterans.
I've said it before - all other changes are good - this is not.

I've also messaged the genius who thought of this my ideas - answer: "Na this is better". No. Integrating noobs is better if they can learn the soup plugin themselves. Give them a decent tutorial, give them resistance (passive) in their first games and give them extra credits, but remove soups and you'll be able to play HG without me, sorry.

 

I've wanted to play HG, but there's either not enough players on when I'm online, or little to none. So the fact that games will be easier to fill up now is a big relief--the waiting for a lobby to be complete was really a nuisance. I'm also glad HG is following CTF'S Free Kit Friday; some players may not like it, but it really does attract individuals to the server. I think all of these changes are going to attract a lot of new players to HG, myself included.

 

Love it.

 

Same here except for that one part

 

I'd at least like to see some kits like levitator added, but I'd honestly prefer combining/incorporating the kits not listed here into current/new kits. This would still reduce the amount of kits, but not limit strategy as hard.

There has to be a balance between appeasing veterans and appeasing new players. Soup hg is currently dead on nearly every server (with the exception of simple). There is no doubt in my mind that no soup has more potential to increase player base, and that is what is better for brawl. Veterans/regulars might get mad about it, but in the end it's likely what is best. Honestly I prefer soup to no soup, but I recognize the potential of no soup in comparison.

 

I've said it before - NoSoupHG is not the way to go with HG. NoSoupHG on MCPvP split the community, it did the same here, and I'm getting a strong feeling that the HG community is going to be left out of the decision anyway.
The whole point of HG is to have Soup, not to have Survival Games on a larger map

 

There were statistics posted on mcpvp showing that no soup had more players and a higher player retention rate when they ran side by side.

 

It still split the community.
Also, you've got to thin about this. I beg you, I beg you very much, PLEASE think about what will happen to other players that prefer soup.
There are so many more much better ways to integrate new players into HG than this. Give new players a decent tutorial, give them passive resistance, let them spawn with tools, give them more healing via soup. But don't remove soup. You'd be killing the gamemode for the veterans. And that's a claim not many moderators on servers can make - driven away almost all regulars in one swoop.

 

There is clearly a bigger problem here. If every veteran that complained about hg being dead actually played the game there would be no issue. Big changes have to be made. The pool of veterans that actively play hg is honestly extremely small, to the point that anyone who plays the game could easily name all of them. There currently is no player base at all. This gives us an opportunity to create one in my opinion.

 

This is hopeless.

Oh, and by the way, there are several dozen BR and US HG servers. There are even some in Africa. And before you say things like that and get "great changes" like these implemented, maybe ask the damn community.

 

hg is dead accept it xd

 

All of those hg servers except for simple are dead. The numbers servers like pandora hg even have right now are laughable. That being said, simple isn't even that popular in terms of minecraft servers, just hg itself.

Also, we clearly intend to involve the community. If we didn't why would we share this thread?

 

The kit list change has already been implemented.
The NoSoup idea should have been presented much earlier - the idea now is bad (sorry but that's the truth). It isn't an idea that has potential. Plus, you're going to have to deal with me if you really want this to be put through. Several community members have mentioned that they didn't want this.

 

Though only you seem to be negative... it's not up to you what will be added.

 

I know - it SHOULD be up to the community.

 

Leaving the final say on everything up to the players may sound like a great idea, but from a business standpoint has many flaws. We aim to take your ideas and meld them into what we'd like to see happen to get what will be best for both the current players and the future of the server.

Majority ≠ correct all of the time.

Please pm me for any further discussion specific to myself. Thread is getting rather cluttered.

 

I'm negative about point 4 too, but I keep it in the staff slack. If only you knew how hard I fought, and am fighting for soup

 

uh what community?

I like these changes, when I tried playing HG i got destroyed by people who knew how to soup well and it's also boring joining a game with 2 people.

 

It doesn't cater to older players.