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Idea The price of cancellation in /shop

Discussion in 'Raid' started by hockeyxxxxxxkid, May 18, 2017.

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  1. hockeyxxxxxxkid

    hockeyxxxxxxkid Active Member

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    Currently, the shop seems like unraidable storage in many cases. I think the price of cancellation should either go up over time, or the price of cancellation should be based on the total price of the items, rather than just one of them. Perhaps a combination of these two ideas would be best.
     
  2. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    The current price of cancelling is the same as someone else buying the item - Which is the price its put in for, and the seller gets 85% of the profit (15% goes to tax). So, if you buy something back/cancel, you only get 85% of the gold back.

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    If I sell a Protection 4, Unbreaking 3 chestplate for 100g - If I then decide I want it back, I loose 15g (since I've technically bought it for 100g, then got 85g for selling it)

    You are suggesting that if a person cancels/buys-back an item that they sold, this 15% changes to say - 40%?
    Or, your other suggestion, that for every day that passes, 1% gets added into the tax for buying it back. (or similar)

    This leads to way to avoid this, by simply asking a teammate to buy the item (getting the normal 15% tax), then you pay them back. Serves the same purpose, but they've avoided the extra tax by canceling an item via teammate/friend.

    I can see how people may be using the shop to store items, as realistically, loosing 15g or so isn't that much if your items are safe. Any ways to combat the issue above?
     
  3. hockeyxxxxxxkid

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    I think you misunderstood one of my suggestions. Lets say you have 100 diamonds in the shop. My understanding is that if you cancel it you only lose 15% off of one of them, which is vastly lower than losing 15% total. So my suggestion is losing 15% off the total.

    I see what you're saying about the way to avoid a higher cancellation fee, though. So I guess the highest it could go is 15% of the total. Perhaps it shouldn't be this amount right away, but should build up to this amount over time.
     
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    I like the concept. Originally it used be that when you sold something, you couldn't retrieve it. The penalty for retrieving items should go up. I like the idea of the 15% total.
     
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    Ahh well, after a bit of testing I have just seen what you mean (wasn't originally aware of this) - This would be more of a bug then. It should deduct 15% off the total price, but appears to only detect it off 1 of the items. We shall look into getting this fixed - Once fixed, does that correct the issue which caused you to suggest this idea?
     
  6. hockeyxxxxxxkid

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    Yep. It probably is still somewhat abusable, but I think this is the best option. Also, once fixed, I think it would be best if it showed the total amount of gold it would cost, rather than the price for one of them, when cancelling.
     
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    Agreed - I think that will automatically change to being correct when the bug is fixed anyway.
     
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    When it's fixed, I think it could still go up. Selling something for 250g which is unreasonable for just about everything (so you can store it), then only having to pay 35.5g to remove it. To me it is still pretty over powered.
     
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    So is storing everything on alts, but you don't see that being taxed. Also, that taxation will need to be reset to some rather low number with map restart and then go up to account for inflation.
     
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    Agreed, but I honestly don't know how to stop alt storing, it would be tedious to gather evidence.
     
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    15% bug is now fixed - Price of cancellation is now 15% of the whole listing, not just a single item.
    (On next reboot)
     
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  12. hockeyxxxxxxkid

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    The amount seems to be 85% rather than 15%
     
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