Idea Remove the ELO system?

The ELO farming could be fixed by you gaining decreased amounts of ELO for killing the same player in a certain time frame.

And wearing "ELO armor" is actually completely legitimate. It's a lot easier to kill a leather than a diamond, and thus someone who chooses to run around in less armor should be rewarded for the limitations they have imposed upon themselves. Also, people should be able to play the game how they want, and if wearing less armor to get more ELO is what they want, then so be it.

 

If anything, it should be improved on. There is no reason it should be removed ever if it's faulty, seeing gas t doesn't play any role in the game besides being an achievement to strive towards.

 

I think the current system gives bad people like me a chance - if those people ran around in diamond, I couldnt do anything.

 

Also, what is the point of this poll? If you want things to change, be more mature and less biased. I am not on topelo, but I believe it shouldn't be repealed unless we have a different system.

 

Changing my vote to a +1. People stored my diamond right after a fight rather than fighting with it.

 

just dumb when you get killed in a situation where your armor doesnt matter at all (backstab, jumping a person rushing up a tower, etc.) and you lose 2 points of elo to someone not necessarily outskilling you or whatever.

 

It is a part of the game, change your play style to adapt if it is that annoying, no one said you have to care about elo.

 

The poll wasn't biased because Trogs was only asking a question. As for the actual purpose of the thread, I kind of agree with Hitchens here. When I do play, I prefer not to go up against full diamond players.

 

Anyone ever heard of this thing called a K/D ratio

 

Yes but its dumb on warz as it would just lead to farming noobs

 

Calling someone immature from you is a little funny but I will ignore that, nevertheless, the point of the poll was to see the communities opinion on the elo system because it can be abused and cheated in many different ways.

 

Yeah, that's very frustrating, but that's one of those things that you can't really control. I don't know if there would even be a way to change that or have that type of kill be differentiated.

The poll was biased, but Trogs later edited it.

 

Please pm me with instances that come to mind.

 

Ah. I apologize then. I didn't expect an smod to post something biased, so I jumped to conclusions.

 

The poll was along the lines on "No, I am on topelo and I have farmed for my spot (-1)"

 

It is indeed my fault for assuming that troggy did not post an immature poll but, the elo system in game says "elo is a rating system used to calculate the skill level of players for ranking purposes." If most of the people on topelo are 'elo farming' is this really an accurate measure of skill. Keeping a broken system that encourages leather fights doesn't make sense and it certainly isn't fun, at least for me. Diamond is tossed aside as useless and now people want iron. In fact, this system encourages big teams so you can easily defeat your enemies with sheer numbers. If you're in a small team that gets bulldozed by bigger teams and constantly losing elo, now you're called 'bambi'. The elo system trivializes small teams by making them look bad, but in reality, they may be good. Elo does not factor in the amount of players are in a team, thus creating an inaccurate interpretation of skill. Their is a way to fix the elo system but its probably not a popular idea. We need an elo system that factors the number of players in a team. The more players you have on a team the less elo you gain from kills. This might involve the /team command coming back for the elo system to determine the amount of players in a team.

 

I actually really like this idea. I have heard other people say it before, and I still support it. I would like a /team system, and having the amount of ELO you gain dependant on how many teammates help would be great. Possibly it could be where there is x amount of ELO possibly gained by one player, and the more players that damage said player in a certain amount of time upon death would result in less ELO possibly earned. For example, if I am in a 1v1 situation let's say I have 1 ELO that could be gained. For every other player that then shoots me within 5 seconds of my death the amount of ELO gained would reduce by 0.1

This would be one way to counter the team size, and would be the most accurate. And back to my earlier point. The only way you can cheat the system is to have your friend help you farm. Wearing "ELO Armor" is indeed an accurate representation of skill, given the other player doesn't backstab you. It may make fights less interesting, but ultimately part of the fun in the game is allowing players the freedom to chose how they play the game. If someone wants to play strictly for the purpose of gaining ELO, then they should have that option. Players should have some more areas to chose how they want to play the game, and having the option of wearing less armor to gain ELO should be one of them. This makes the game less dull for some players, and can encourage them to stick around. There are many incredible players who don't get on 'Top ELO' and many players who do who shouldn't be there. However, I will quote Trogs' previous poll, which said. "I am on Top ELO, and I had to grind for this view." Which he couldn't have said better. If you're on Top ELO, you do have to grind, even if you are 'cheating' the system.

Tl;dr
There should be a system that makes big teams earn less ELO, and ELO armor is fine to wear in my opinion. I think the ELO system should be revised in some places, but all in all it should stay.