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Zombie Nerf 7/13/17

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Signatured, Jul 13, 2017.

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Do you like the new zombies?

  1. Yes

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  2. No (Please explain why)

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  1. Signatured

    Signatured War 2.0 Developer

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    Hello Brawlers,

    Recently there has been a lot of discussion about nerfing zombies. We understand that PvP is the main reason players play WarZ, so we're willing to try a small zombie nerf if it will make the community happy. Here's what has been changed:

    • Overall damage of zombies in all zones have been slightly decreased.
    • Zombies in zones smaller than 4 now have speed 1 rather than speed 2
    • Health has been slightly lowered for all zombies in all zones
    Let us know what you think by voting on the poll.

    Thanks,
    Brawl Staff Team
     
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  2. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    Further enabling the downhill slope of WarZ. Noice
     
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  3. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    thank the lord all we need is nerfed camping buildings in old snow because the ****s ridiculous when there is are like 3 teams of 5 people sitting in buildings that are impossible to rush
     
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    Signatured War 2.0 Developer

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    Can you explain this a bit more?
     
  5. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    Instead of updating new stuff you just limited the gameplay even more. Let's take a look from a donor view and a non donor view...

    Donor: This update is... decent. We can now continue our boring gameplay of fighting teams, tp logging, and then do it all over. No more worrying about zombies, but this update doesn't do that much

    Non-donor: This update... sucks. We actually play the game the way it should be played. You are removing the fun of fighting zombies and staying alive and encouraging more PVP. I've crossed several people in lower zones that don't kill on site, and instead we work together exploring and killing zombies. Now this update encourages PVP and killing on site, so making more random friends doesn't seem like it'll happen anymore.

    What you don't understand is that WarZ will never be a successful PVP server. The only way to be great on WarZ is by donating. Not many people, unless they are die hards, will donate to Brawl. It's too much money for what you get. You can donate on other servers and get a bigger advantages and have more fun. You're just taking the fun out for the casual players and only change things to make it better for the lower percentage of players that fund the server. Which also breaks the EULA. So no, this update doesn't make WarZ better, it simply further ruins the game for the majority of us that don't donate and just play for fun.

    And yes, I know. You have to listen to the money otherwise there won't be anymore WarZ. Well here's something you don't want to hear... there's no fixing WarZ. You won't change it to be less PVP and donor based, which would promote more casual players that may eventually donate. So there's no solution to this. Brawl just made an awful server. But thank you for continuing to make it even more awful for all of us that want to play server without paying, the way Minecraft and the EULA want it to be. Hopefully soon it'll all end.
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I can't really imagine WarZ being any good at PvE unless it either gets a substantial update or an entire rework (WarZ 2.0). I'd love for the survivability to be improved but it'll take a lot of dev time that we just don't have right now, and changes like this are a matter of changing a few numbers.
     
  7. bob8is8cool

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    You realize you pretty much agreed with me right? Sure, they changed a few numbers for this update and that was it... However that caused WarZ to be less PvE and ruin it for anyone who doesn't donate. WarZ does need a 2.0 if it will be saved. The majority of active donors seem to have been around for awhile, and once they get bored the donations will also stop. So yes, run the server into the ground with these small updates that ruin the game for casual players. Kill the server population some more why don't ya
     
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    yes because killing mindless entities is so much more fun and rewarding than actual player vs player combat.

    i agree that warz is completely unfair to whitenames, but making warz how it was "supposed to be played" is silly and shortsighted considering the server has evolved, on its own, into what has proved to be the most popular and engaging playstyle (team vs team combat)

    you literally only come onto this server to flame, not give any actual, realistic advice to the people that run the server, and clearly nothing has changed since your last ban.
     
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  9. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    I always love it when people can't read...

    As I stated, WarZ needs new updates. Not tweaks to the maps or tweaks to make it even more PVP. WarZ is SO pay to win that it's almost impossible to be successful without donating. This drives away new players. Not to mention it violates Minecraft's EULA so its technically illegal.

    I'm not suggesting that WarZ is made so the goal is to fight zombies. I think that more could be done to make it more zombie apocalyptic survival though. I've suggested taking out combos, taking out instant healing, adding in bases, taking out tp's... all of these things. Do not try and tell me I haven't suggested ways to make this server better. My first post, nearly 3.5 years ago, was a suggestion to make the server better.

    WarZ was simply set up for failure. It was designed to be pay to win. I was foolish enough to waste money donating. And yes, it was fun. However a server should never have it's priorities be for donors to get an unfair advantage. It discourages new players and ultimately the population will die. Unless there is a huge WarZ 2.0 update, the server will soon die when either donors quit or when my EULA report is investigated.

    Nice try though bud. Please do some fact checks first.
     
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    besides bases, these are all completely unrealistic things that will never get added to the game.
     
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    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Lol what... I agree with the part about the white names having an unfair disadvantage. One way to "balance" the whole situation would be giving them a 15 minute long tp timer. Honestly, besides that, ranks just literally are shorter tp timers, a bit more armor per rank, and a TAGGGG ingame. Taking out tp's will not happen anytime soon at all, taking out combos would kill this gamemode, adding in more bases than there already are...????? Have you been to old snow and have you tried fighting 4-6 man teams camping in ONE building? Your ideas for WarZ are unrealistic (except for the whitenames one.) Those are ideas YOU think would positively affect the server, but in reality some would just bring down the server instead of bringing it back up.
     
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    donors also get echests but your point still stands
     
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    WarZ every thriving I s an unrealistic thing as well. Maybe something should be done so there's more than 8 people playing on the most popular server at a time.

    The only reason it ever thrived is because a large number of hackers were willing to pay for acts and continue donating. You know Brawl is desperate when it unbans their entire database in an attempt to get those donors back.
     
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    irrelavant to the fact that you flame brawl while whining for the good ol days when comboing didnt exist
     
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    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Brawl wasn't "desperate," we put in the VPN block to be able to help staff with people who hacked so they couldn't alt, then we decided it would be great if we also reset bans to give people that have been banned for years a second chance.
     
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    I can see that you're new here, Mr. June 2016. I've spent plenty of times as a non-donor and as a donor. If two or more donors are fighting a single non donor, they should never lose. They can easily camp and wait for those short timers to cool down. And they know this. So unless you're an amazing WarZ player, which most casuals aren't, you will not win. How often do you continually see "white names" in the nether? How often do you continually see donors in the nether? The difference is rare and always.

    Also I referred to building bases meaning players should have the ability to build their own bases, which could be used to store stuff and be raided by others. Maybe do some research before attacking my idea.

    You are simply close minded and won't even think about what changes will bring to WarZ. Try to actually think before posting

    Irrelevant in general...

    Complete and utter bull Hahahaha. I checked the forums periodically. The forums say how many people are online. Since early 2016 those numbers for WarZ have been embarrassing low. I know staff was hoping to get donors back, not players back. The majority of people banned staff wanted back were hackers and not advertisors (etc.). They wanted the community back that was full of donors.

    Also, I teamed with plenty of hackers. They have ways around those blocks with their alts though. Only the worst got caught. Cute though

    Which violates the EULA. People who don't donate to Brawl have restricted to access to a part of Minecraft, meaning Brawl is selling features on Minecraft that players already bought.
     
  17. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Actually May 18, of 2015* https://www.brawl.com/players/jayog/ (I came with McPvp fyi) didn't create a forums account back then. I'm somewhat new, but most my friends have been here for about 4-5 years, and I have been described what the "good old days were like," @Usp45 aswell has given me an insight of the "old" game. You're mostly complaining about how tp timers are what make these donor ranks "op", clearly a solution I stated above was to give white names a 15 or 10 minute tp timer. Also teaming with hackers gets you tempbanned, so maybe don't do that :], thats besides the point. Your ideas are more towards PvE, which is something this community doesn't want. If you say something near the lines of, "I'm gonna go Nether to find some zombies to fight," you'll be laughed at. People play this game for the aspect of PvP, not to fight useless entities that are named Zombies. WarZ has turned into who can survive the players and the zombies. But more of the player part. I have seen clips of the 10-20 zombies chasing you, and that just looks awfully annoying while you try to fight. Have you been ingame recent though? You're talking about the good old days, but whats the point of something if it doesn't evolve/progress forward? Nothing will always be kept the same, and things eventually do change. Maybe YOU don't need to like the updates, but the majority of our community landslided the poll for nerfing zombies. An outstanding 63% voted for a nerf, 16% voted for a buff, and 20% voted to leave them alone. A few hundred votes aswell. So your points becoming invalid once you find out the fact that YOUR ideas is not what our community wants.
     
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    Can you even read? Holy cow.

    "I'm not suggesting that WarZ is made so the goal is to fight zombies. I think that more could be done to make it more zombie apocalyptic survival though."

    Your idea for a 10-15 minute timer does nothing. In a 2v2 with non donors and donors, if one of the non donors dies then the non donor would have to win 7ish fights before they can even tp back! That's ridiculous.

    "I'm not suggesting that WarZ is made so the goal is to fight zombies. I think that more could be done to make it more zombie apocalyptic survival though."

    What community are you referring to? I'm not even talking about the OG days of 2013 before combos. 2014 was a great time for WarZ, and combos existed then. If you haven't noticed, which you wouldn't because you're from 2015*, a lot of those players are gone. Things DO need to change. The current WarZ is boring and there is no community except for those who want PVP. You tell me moderator, do you want a server of 30 or of 130?

    A drop in server population this large is not progressing forward. I'm also not suggesting we return to the OG days. I'm suggesting new things that would be an update! PLEASE. Learn. To. Read.
     
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    https://www.brawl.com/threads/68208/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/68166/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/67886/ (wanting zombies in higher areas so they don't have to worry about them in lower zones)
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/64293/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/63364/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/53804/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/50015/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/47672/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/44745/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/44616/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/37774/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/34650/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/32046/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/20435/
    lol honestly PvE is far gone, and would you rather no tp timer for white names or let them have a very restricted timer? Community has been asking for a long time to nerf these zombies, it happens, people like you complain lol. I don't see how your ideas would positively affect our server. Removing tp timers nope, adding back more bases to CAMP nope, removing combos a BIG nope.
     
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  20. Usp45

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    your ideas are stupid and unpopular dude, thats the reason they have not been considered. i have personally talked with the head mods of warz about the server and have told them ways to give whitenames easier ways to get involved in the donor part of the server like giving a 10 minute tp timer and guides to learning great how to play the server how it is played today (i would suggest you do the same)
     
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