Zombie Nerf 7/13/17

1. The majority of donors hacked back in the day. I was teamed with lots of them. There's no way to disprove or prove this, but I'm sure the ban history (that is not gone) would agree.

2. Okay...? Your doubts mean nothing to the people that are rating my posts and messaging me. Feel free to doubt though.

3. Signatured asked me to discuss here. No need to make another thread.

4. I understand the server's POV. You don't understand the Whitename's POV where it is impossible to be good at WarZ. If the server can't survive without breaking the EULA then it should change, like with the suggestions I've been making.

5. Your solution to P2W is stop playing the server. Well guess what, that's what people are doing. 700+ unique players voted in that poll but only 100 probably play. Those unique Whitename players are leaving. And that's why it's dying. You're just enabling the death of Brawl by ignoring it. A 10 minute timer still doesn't solve the issue though. Take this situation for example.

Two Whitenames are fighting two donors. The two Whitenames are camping in a room. One of the donors can rush in, kill a Whitename, and then force both of them to tp back. The donor now has a 2 minute cooldown and the Whitename now has a 10 minute cooldown. The donor then tp's back, grabs a gun from his echest, friend, or loot on the ground, and does the same thing. He may die, but he can tp again. He may die again, but he can tp again. The donor has 1/5 of the timer, so a Whitename would have to survive 5 attacks before their cooldown ends. That is simply not fair.

6. The problem is that will never happen. A giant server update is more likely than WarZ magically getting a friendly community. WarZ is super toxic and barely anybody helps anyone out. If you can somehow recruit a mass friendly movement, I'll be all aboard.

Hope that clears things up.

Features of a situation? Again, you didn't highlight features of a situation. You highlighted TWO WORDS that were different. I literally made a hypothesis about a problem. That is not called a contradiction.

Well I made a thread about it. Plus I never said I know everything. Plus I've done pretty good at replying to everything. There's been lots of replies and @Usp45 only came up with 6 points for me to answer, most of which were already partially addressed.

I get that $20 isn't a ton of money. My point is some people don't want to pay for an illegal DLC when they agreed to an EULA saying they wouldn't have to pay for a DLC because they already bought the game.

Why would the server not survive if Whitenames were equal to donors gameplay wise? In my opinion, a larger portion of those 700+ Unique Whitenames would keep playing. This means the community would get larger. A larger community means a pool of players that may donate. It works on other servers.

 

this is a complete lie and have no clue what you are talking about. the majority of people that play any game are not cheating, and you are making up some stupid **** just to fit your narrative or whatever this is. i, too, played warz "back in the day" and have no clue what youre referring to when you say that everyone was hacking. guess you just played with the wrong people

okay cool but your supposed support on the forums (which is like, 3 people agreeing and liking your posts) is irrelevant considering the whitenames that will play the server if it is changed do not go on the forums. i guess i was being too subtle, but i was saying in that post that you are lying about random whitenames telling you they appreciate you standing up for them or whatever on the forums. sounds like something straight out of r/thathappened

giving a 10 minute tp timer will make it much, much easier for whitenames to be on the same level without completely crippling the main income of brawl. the owners cannot be asked to take an enormous gamble on a server that will only make profits if it has an immense playerbase (ones that are willing to donate for cosmetics etc.)

okay. an elite can tp 4 times in the span that a vip can, does that mean the ranks are completely unbalanced? from a certain point of view, yes, but having such inbalances are the reason this server can run. i agree that whitenames are completely disadvantaged in fights, but making the entire playing field even will not fix the problem of a complete skillgap between new and experienced players that can only be fixed by making guides to help new players learn the server.

not talking about a friendly community, im talking about specific ranks that people will get by applying and will become people that simply team and help new players learn the server

okay, so now youve completely shifted to brawl being against the eula or whatever. you dont seem to realize that warz was at its peak in player count in summer 2014 when, guess what, the eula was being completely violated.

 

just putting it out there but you suggested warz being a server where you build bases, and store your items but that would be impossible since allowing people to build would also allow them to break, and greifing will become a huge problem, aswell as the fact that you can't claim land and if you did this wouldn't be warz so your "base" would get destroyed every single time that you would make one, also xrays/chestfinder's in clients, overall impossible and would take too much coding and is something that would ruin overall warz. JUST SAYING.

 

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You realize you can already build on WarZ, right? Not sure how much you actually know about the game. There are things called hatchets. You get them in chests and can then chop down trees. Those trees give you logs and you can build bases with them. I've made a few and seen a few from people just bored. You can only build outside of towns though. So no, it wouldn't be impossible. It's already partially coded into the game. Good try though.

There's no way to prove or disprove this, as I said. You can't just call it a lie. A lot of donors also hacked.

Again, you have no support to this. You are simply saying "r/thathappened." I've seen the messages. I've seen staff members agreeing with me.

I am saying that Brawl either takes this gamble or it dies. Either due to time and people quitting or Mojang cracking down.

Making guides won't help make things better. It'll make things closer, but the disadvantage is still huge.

Isn't that what our staff fails to do? Good luck trying to find people to do that.

Yes, and that was right when the EULA came out. It wasn't being forced yet.

 

lol i know you can but thats only with hatches and wood and it eventually is taken off when it resets xD thats why you're only allowed to break certain things. Not worth the effort nor would be ideal

 

Why would it not be worth it?

 

Because as of right now your "base build" resets. Plus a big majority of people would not want this. WarZ isn't supposed to be a hop on and you're a god game, you have to practice and with practice comes effort. I believe we should be doing more for whitenames, I recently suggested to make a zombie concetrated area just so you PvE people could have a bit more of room to play with and since players rn dislike zombies, it wouldn't be as populated. But besides that, your other ideas wouldn't be implemented into the game simply because we go off what our community wants, and it has to be a large majority.

 

Yeah and a simple change could make bases reset once a day, week, whatever. I'm not suggesting we make everyone super skilled, I'm saying we give alternate motives in gameplay so the non skilled players don't die and get bored

 

yes they agreed to the eula but no one reads the eula lol

the server would not survive because no one would donate because there would be no perks received for donators

i actually find this really funny thinking about it because while you're correct, i would love to go around looting every single hatchet found to get stacks upon stacks of wood so i can just place them literally everywhere

 

Here is the mc-war donation page.
https://shop.brawl.com/category/358007/
https://shop.brawl.com/category/358008/
https://shop.brawl.com/category/358009/
https://shop.brawl.com/category/358004
https://shop.brawl.com/category/358010

 

Negligence is not an excuse. As I said, new players would come in who would donate for new perks

Not sure about this... we're talking about WarZ bud

 

new perks that dont break the eula?

sorry, only 10% of people are going to donate for a "yellow leather chestplate upon spawn."

 

So were should i post this if it should be moved?
and the links were proving you can still get stuff

 

Uh why does it need to be posted? Everyone knows about the War shop...

 

my point was saying that if they did change it to comply with the eula, you couldn't get anything.
look, you can buy the flamethrower...
something that can give you a clear advantage over someone else.. that doesn't comply with the eula
and one of bob's arguments is that we need to make the server eula-compliant, but if we did that the server would die because like i said, no one would buy a yellow chestplate upon spawn

 

seems zombie health has been buffed
m9 and magnum used to be able to one shot head shot zombies in zone 6, now they can't. deagle is only pistol that can one shot a zombie.

 

WarZ is not warz without zombies. But i think it's good to need them a little. It's annoying when you have to grapple somewhere and zombies are attacking you.

Nerf then a little, but don't remove them.