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My levels are gone..@Vincz

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  1. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Vincz tried that with his original thread.

    It was then locked.

    I am shining a light on the issue. My ask is only for transparency in communication.
     
  2. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    And I'm sorry it was locked, but there won't be transparency. As long as there are enough people willing to overlook the fact that the communication is lacking, nothing will change. Your thread is a good start towards fixing this issue, but it will take a lot more than that to convince most of the staff that it's ok to trust the community a little more with information.
     
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  3. SoCool21

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    @MR_EVIL_OVERLORD @tallscot

    @Vincz was told exactly why he was punished before he made the thread.
    [​IMG]

    This is similar to a case of someone banned for "Hacking: Killaura" then appealing asking why they were banned. Shockingly enough, for "Hacking: Killaura". Or, in Vincz's case, "Glitching levels on MC-War".
     
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  4. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    but it isnt considering the levels (that he knew he glitched) were reverted
     
  5. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    what are you saying

    every situation, no matter the punishment, requires communication. he obviously didn't know why his levels were reverted, hence the thread. he knew he glitched them (once, accidentally), but that was months ago. he didn't think that he would be punished for something he did months ago, especially since putty told him he was ok. that's why he made the thread. if staff communicated, he wouldn't have made the thread. that's all that matters.
     
  6. PorkChops30

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    doesn't matter much tbh
     
  7. RockTomb

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    First change for war with me not being manager is a hated one, strange that.... I know I would of never had that happen. Just give him his levels back.
     
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  8. SoCool21

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  9. Algelier

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    I’m not going to take part in this. The only thing I’m going to say is that taking @Vincz’s levels is absurd as long as these are only virtual levels and glitching didn’t reward him (only in leaderboards but they are made with kills).
     
  10. Vincz

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    August/September 2016, so 11 months ago.

    Well that's the first time I've ever seen that. It was given when I was offline and that same night I got set back to level 120.

    And since when is it a warning if I immeadiately get a 103 level dropdown?

    Also, there should have been communication béfore I got the punishment, it's like making a decision in court without the suspect having a chance to tell what happened.
     
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  11. SoCool21

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    /warnings isn't the hardest command in the world to figure out.

    Because that was your only punishment. Other than that, you were not banned or tempbanned or anything, you just lost levels to how it was before you decided to glitch levels.

    Don't ask us to ask you what happened, considering we already have and you lied about getting the levels legitimately.


    tl;dr: you glitched your way to the top of the levels leaderboard then lied about it to the owner in PMs. Then you found your actions had a consequence, and you lack the ability to accept this.

    Be grateful you're not banned. Any other server would've done that. You're not getting your levels back, end of story.
     
  12. Vincz

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    I never got asked what happened, or how it happened.

    The only thing I ever got asked, was to give chickenputty a reason not to wipe ALL of my stats, since they were not legit. My answer was that it would be disturbing if all of my levels and hard work would be wiped, and then he just said he'd be watching me.
     
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  13. SkullcrusherLD

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    I didn't take part in this decision, too busy with America. But you guys gotta chill a little bit more. Yes, communication is important, yes we should informate. But my impression is that you guys use the lack of one PM to criticise the decision in general. And that is ridiculous. Don't exaggerate, some fake levels have been taken, he wasn't informated because we falsely thought he'd somehow remember he glitched 70 levels and that's it.
    Yo mate, get back on the ground :confused: Most of the staff members agreed on that, we won't let someone away, with 70 fake levels. I'm sorry it took so long though.
     
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  14. SoCool21

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    We don't need to ask what happened. It's blatantly obvious to anyone who remotely knows War (hell I barely play the gamemode and it was obvious to me that you glitched) that your levels were illegitimate, so Putty PM'd you asking why he shouldn't reset your stats.

    You began by lying, saying "Well, I just got it legit" (as you said before). If you don't bother being honest with us, why should we bother communicating with you? Then you said that you worked hard for all your levels - boohoo, this is not an excuse for glitching so many levels and will not cause you to avoid punishment. Putty does have better things to do than discuss stuff like this with someone who's being nothing but dishonest, so he didn't make a final verdict.

    Because of this, as well as what I have been told by other staff members, I don't believe for a minute that the glitch was accidental whatsoever. Your story constantly changes - this is just petty and dishonest. I don't blame Roke for not communicating much with you. Either way, you were still given a reason (which could be found by simply doing /warnings or checking your player history), but you decided to take it to the forums instead of accepting that your actions have consequences.

    You were communicated with in the past, and you threw that opportunity away by being dishonest. Don't then expect us to bother communicating with you again.

    Unless you're willing to go against every staff member involved in the discussion, including Roke who has more authority than you, then yeah, you would let it happen. You're not always right, bud.
     
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    okay, for the last time:

    the levels are glitched. it doesnt matter if it was intentional or accidental, the levels were still glitched. they were reverted to a fair guess that could have been changed to be more accurate in a PRIVAYE discussion.

    at this point, vincz just wants attention and to play the victim card for glitching, LYING ABOUT HIS GLITCHING, then wondering why the levels got reverted.

    ??????????????????

    also, if everyone is saying "oh levels are only a number let him have his levels back," that same argument can be used against him.

    the glitched levels were reverted, end of the story.
     
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  16. Vincz

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    No my level wasn't just reverted, they gave me a -30 level punishment and you miss the entire point of the discussion: the fact that the server never communicates with the players.

    The serverteam appearently had a debate that took like 1h 30m and all they had to go on, was an 1 year old PM with chickenputty in which I was asked to give some quick arguments on why I shouldn't get a full statwipe, and a vague idea how people in generally glitch levels on Mc-War.
    So it's negligent and unfair to not have asked me for any information or clarification.
     
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  17. 19kss

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    finally a sensible response lol
     
  18. SoCool21

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    Last time we tried to, you were straight up dishonest. Don't abuse a privilege then continue to expect it, that's just petty.
     
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  19. Usp45

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    then you can tell them about the 30 level "punishment" and they can help you in a PRIVATE CONVERSATION

    and you lied to putty. i dont see your point
     
  20. Vincz

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    "Last time we tried to?" All chickenputty did once, was threatening to reset all of my stats, he never asked about the glitch. I just had to convince him in one hour not to reset all of my stats.

    So because a year ago I said once to chickenputty "I got it legit" - which was false indeed because legit means 'by the server rules' and glitching is not by the serverrules - you call me 5 times dishonest, 2 times petty, 3 times a liar and say I'm abusing a privilege? Well that's very objective.
     
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