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  1. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    Well you only think that because of what they taught you.

    Can you see this circular logic? You use it all the time. Especially when it comes to the Bible. It's pretty much:

    Me: Why do you believe in the Bible?
    Gehenna: The Bible says The Bible is true, therefore The Bible is true.

    How do you know God's teaching through that person? What if they're just lying?

    Or, alternatively, if I said that God was teaching me evolution through my biology teacher, how would you prove me wrong?

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  2. MattM1PVP

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    The only difference between Judaism and Christianity (if im not wrong) is that Judaism doesn't believe that Jesus is the messiah, and so they're still waiting for the messiah. So Moses would definitely be a prophet for both Judaism and Christianity. Islam is a little tough for me to get, coz as far as I know Islam descended from Ishmael which was one of Abraham's sons (I think), which was before Moses.
     
  3. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    I can read the Bible and see if they're falsely interpreting it.

    The Word of God defies the teachings of biology.
     
  4. GlobalistCuck

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    Yes but a human wrote the Bible...

    Also, we come again to the question of literal vs metaphorical interpretation of the Bible. Do you mean to tell me you follow every letter of the Bible? Even the most wacko sht?

    Also I say that biology is the word of God. God taught me biology through my teacher in class. How do you prove me wrong?
     
  5. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but God wrote the Bible through those people. He told them what to write down.

    Yes.

    Biology is a human concept. It has little, if anything, to do with God.
     
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    Religion, and God himself, are concepts humans have made.
     
  7. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    Aliens, social control, leading through manipulation of the masses, and pondering man's existence.

    I'll just drop that here and watch the ensuing chaos.
     
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    I believe Atheism is a human made concept.
     
  10. percnowitizki

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    technically, yes. the concept of religion was made by man a long time a g o.
     
  11. enderdragon3615

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    1. We believe that God is the writer of the Bible by working through the authors who wrote in it.

    2. I can't speak for Gehenna but the Catholic Church does not believe that every part of the Bible should be taken literally. There are a number of parables that are aimed to teach lessons and not history.

    That may be so but SoCool's point is made, if I might say, invalid by showing that Atheism was a concept created by man.

    Edit: Actually I think I misinterpreted his post when I glanced over it. Sorry!
     
  12. 19Cameron91

    19Cameron91 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. The parables that Jesus told are not actual historical events but are moral stories.
     
  13. GlobalistCuck

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    Prove he told them what to write down. Prove it.

    Also, religion is a human concept. Disagree? Prove it.

    Could you explain a bit more please? If you're saying what I THINK you're saying, which is that humans "invented" atheism, then that's really dumb. Atheism is the default setting for human beings. We're not born with a belief in God.

    1. Yeah, can you prove it? *central theme here*
    2. OK but how do you differentiate between metaphor and actual literal events? Gehenna said that if someone is teaching the word of God "wrong" then he can just check in the Bible. But now you're saying that what the Bible says isn't always what should be taken literally, so how do Christians decide what to believe is true? They decide what to believe based on what their priest/teacher/parents/whomever tell them to believe.
    And can I just point out how ridiculous a system that is. If you don't claim to be a Bible literalist then that's fine, picking and choosing is what you do. But if you're someone like Gehenna who thinks the Bible is the literal word of God, then why do you still pick and choose? It's because you're trying to reconcile a 2000-year-old book with the morality of today. Don't. It doesn't work and you end up looking like a massive hypocrite.

    And on the last thing, please further explain how atheism was created by humans. Atheism is the lack of religion, it means non-religious. Humans didn't *come up* with atheism, we were born with the lack of idea in our mind.

    OK, I'll bite.

    You think the parables Jesus told aren't literally true.

    I think creationism isn't literally true.

    How can you prove me wrong?
     
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    Yeah. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the same argument again and again.
     
  15. ObamaTheReptile

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    Aliens: definite in an infinite universe

    Social control: society defines the control of society

    Leading through manipulation of the masses: very common but not very good.

    Pondering man's existence: everyone's been doing that since man existed and it's good to do.
     
  16. 19Cameron91

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    All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness.
    2 Timothy 3:16
    There, it says so, clear as day, in the Bible.
    Yes, religion is a human concept.

    Exactly. Shame on those who leave out certain passages, because it doesn't adhere to modern society or what they want to believe. Do not evolve with the world, but stay with God.

    It's obvious the parables are just stories with a great message. Now, that's not to say they didn't actually happen. It's safe to assume there were cases of prodigal sons
     
  17. ObamaTheReptile

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    I'm a bit confused. Is it that they're not literal history, but rather are exaggerated accounts of real things to prove a message?
     
  18. GlobalistCuck

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    Ah, so the Bible should be taken literally! Awesome. But what about all the sexist and generally abhorrent stuff in there. You follow that? All the stuff about not eating certain seafood and other weird rules?
     
  19. 19Cameron91

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    What I meant was, there's little doubt these things in the parables actually happen in everyday life.
    I don't know of any sexist stuff. As for why Christians eat pork and stuff, thanks to Jesus, who fulfilled the law, we are no longer bound by Old Testament law. Now, that does not mean God has changed his mind on sin. God still has the same opinion of sin as He did in the Old Testament.
    I know the Old Testament says gays, thieves, and adulterers/adulteresses deserve to die, and that's true. All sinners deserve to die, but we shouldn't kill them. We should be trying to lead them to Jesus.
     
  20. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    Jesus told me "I'm cool with it." In reference to gay and transgender people.
     
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