Religion Debates and Discussions

Jesus and I played 18 holes of frisbee golf last Sunday brefore grabbing some tasty microbrews...

Santa was with us, so was the Easter Bunny..... just so you know I lost to Jesus and Santa, kind of threw that game didn't want to piss either of them off.

 

Smart move, wouldn't want to get on their bad sides.

 

Wait you just told me the bible is literal? But now you're saying only half of it is? Just trying to make sure I got it right.

Also don't you think that many people will interpret "sinners deserve to die" as "I should kill sinners"?

If I went round telling people that Muslims deserve to die and one of my listeners kills a Muslim, I believe I should be held partially responsible.

Yet you have told me that things like incest and murder are OK in certain situations

Can you point me to the Bible verses that say these things are OK in such situations? If you can't, then you're disobeying the Bible.

 

The Greeks used numbers and letters somewhat interchangeably, in the same way as Roman numerals. 666 can be "reverse-numbered" to mean Nero, who was a Roman emporor. It's thought that this is how the number originated.

http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201309/what-666-bible-27901

 

Wait, what didn't you say?

And what do you mean "only the mentally deranged"? If I go round saying black people deserve to die and some mentally deranged white guy listens to me and kills a bunch of black people because of what I said, I am partially responsible, no?

You told me that murder is OK in certain situations. Where does it say that in the Bible?

 

Can't debate that

 

If you base your life around something, it should be straight forward with all of the bull**** cut out. You shouldn't be able to pick and choose what you read. You either take the whole thing, or none of it, don't call yourself a christian if you "interpret the bible", because that would take God's words out of context.

Atheism is the "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.". If you say that humanity "created Atheism", then by default everyone is a Christian until proven otherwise, which is a silly assumption considering that early on in history Christianity wasn't a thing. It wasn't until 33 CE that Christianity was "founded" by humans.

 

OK, you didn't say half of the Bible is literal, but you said half of the Bible are rules we don't have to follow (Old Testament). It just seems like a very arbitrary system that results in various sects and doctrines all claiming they know the truth.

And for once, Gehenna, let me applaud you on bringing up clear Bible quotes that support your case. If you continue to use evidence like this, I'm sure we can make great strides in our discussion.

It seems you've shown that the Bible is specific to some extent on murder through self-defense, so may I now direct the debate towards some different areas? I have two questions:

1. Do you think that the laws talked about in the Bible should be law in our society today? Should they be the only law? I know this is what some Christian fundamentalists believe but I'd like to hear your view.

2. If you were debating a flat-earther and they admitted that they didn't know how gravity works (which is a basic scientific concept and key to the idea of a round earth), wouldn't you think that rather ignorant of them? They've taken the position of believing in a flat earth, but they haven't even examined all the evidence or bothered to research the opposing viewpoints? In case it isn't clear, this is a metaphor for your disbelief in evolution despite admitting that you don't fully understand it, nor do you care to.

 

According to my understanding, not ALL of the old testament should be ignored. As far as I know and heard, the punishments should be, but the rules are very much there. All the punishments such as sacrificing some goats or cows, or punishments by death are ignored as we believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and so He is the sacrifice, instead of the cows or ourselves (stoning to death or whatever).

1. In my opinion, yes (keep in mind that the punishments by death are eradicated). Of course the ideal situation is that everyone believes in Jesus and they'll ask for forgiveness from him every time they sin, but that's extremely unrealistic.

Don't think 2 applies to me.

 

"cohabitating"

 

Have you ever heard of separation of church and state? It is there to ensure that not everyone has to follow the bible, therefore giving people freedom to choose which faith you believe in or a lack thereof.

 

Did I ever mention athiesm in that whole paragraph? I didn't mention Christianity either. I didn't mention gay marriage either. I said,

You said,

All I said was that this was unlawful and a blatant breach of the constitution, along with everything that America stands for.