Religion Debates and Discussions

koran lol

 

if we're debating the truth of religion, islam, mormonism and mainline christianity are all equally moronic

although if we're debating the morality and usefulness of religion, I reckon it probably goes Mainline Christianity > Mormonism > Islam. Bearing in mind that when it comes to the USA, Islam probably takes the cake. American Muslims are generally alright compared to their Middle Eastern counterparts.

? am confuse

 

its seldom that you see koran over qur'an

let me tell you something about growing up in a muslim family
islam doesn't seem to have as much as a foundation as christianity. you know why? the christian church would change what the bible was saying so that it applied with what was going on at that time period. it was corrupt. (95 theses)

and yeah i suppose you can argue that this was the fault of the people themselves not the religion but when have you seen this with other religions? i havent heard of anything as severe so i'd like to learn about it

the islamic church never did this and that makes it seem like it didn't have much of a foundation (funny because christianity/judaism was the foundation of islam)

do you know why the crusades happened? people wanted a piece of land.

religion wasn't made to follow a god. religion was made so people could abuse it to gain their own power.
crusades, current state of the middle east, huguenots, 30 years war, 80 years war, french religious war, etc.

religion will corrupt you.

 

Pretty sure you're an atheist- I wanna ask you this question (not related atm)

Which religion do you find the most acceptable one?

 

it's called a "statistical impossibilty"

 

well that's a difficult question because there could be cool-ish religions out there that I haven't heard of. Basically my views/understanding of the main religions/sects are:

Catholicism: Bad sht going on with child molestation but generally better than other sects of Christianity, I think most of its leadership believes in evolution to an extent and Catholics in the USA at least are generally more liberal.

Protestantism (Evangelicals et al.): Less weird traditions and beliefs than Catholics to my knowledge but much more toxic in terms of extreme conservatism, child brainwashing and science-denying.

Buddhism: I think the Buddhist philosophy is kind of cool, from what little I know, I'm not quite sure how much "supernatural" stuff there is in there, but the idea of peace and enlightenment isn't bad. 9/10 as religions go.

Hinduism: Don't know much apart from that there's supernatural stuff that's probably BS. Also less belligerent against other religions than Christians or Muslims to my knowledge, so that's cool.

Judaism: As a culture, it's pretty cool, speaking from personal experience. As a religion it's a bit wacko, but I think the beliefs and culture are generally less toxic than Christianity or Islam. The Israel/Palestine thing is complicated, and religious nuts play into it on the Jewish side, but there's also other factors at play.

Mormonism: Crazy people. Good on them for boycotting Trump and voting for the McMuffin but they're crazy people. That being said, they're not THAT much crazier than many evangelicals or certain other religions, so bear that in mind.

Islam: Violent, oppressive, anti-science in much of the way it's taught in the Middle East. There cannot really be world peace while there is Islam in the way it exists today, and that goes for Christianity too.

 

Islam and Mormonism "bible" is corrupt, but Christianity is Truth?
Christianity isn't the truth until proven. This picture is obviously taken from a christian-biased website.

 

No I think the picture depicts the view of the religion. i.e. Muslims and Mormons think the Bible is corrupt, Christians think it's true.

 

Oh. I misunderstood.

 

Even if the bible remains unchanged, what convinces you that it was the "truth" in the first place? What if it was just all a lie, remain unchanged? This is the one part that I don't like when debating about religion. It's too subjective.

 

if there was an all loving god he would not force us all to slaughter each other.
god wants his kingdom saved, wow, that's so good for all the people. i'm so glad god wanted innocent people to be killed.

or again... sodom and gomorrah...

i dont understand what you mean

islam doesn't influence judaism?

Spoiler: pictures

edit: maybe you meant judaism mentions nothing about islam? i'm actually confused, would like clarification

 

i dont understand why us being bad but believing in jesus/knowing we sin makes us "saved" lmao load of baloney

god doesnt force people to kill, cool, but why doesnt he save the innocent people? and surely there were some innocent people is sodom and gomorrah? or maybe, just maybe, god didn't give a **** about the innocent people that were being killed in *literally every other religious war i mentioned*

my parents never told me of any antisemitic teachings of islam and i never bothered to learn about them so i have no information on this subject. all i know is that islam apparently believes that judaism is scandalous? i'm not too sure though so you should take all of this paragraph with a grain of salt
but practically everyone wants to destroy israel indirectly at least...all the wars in israel will cause the destruction of it... people are just stupid... this is more of a philosophical/psychological view rather than a religious one

 

Because Israel is Holy land for both religions, leading to conflict between the two.
It's not like Islam says anywhere in its rules "hate Jews," it just sparks conflict because of overlapping values.
To be clear, Muslims don't want to destroy Israel. They want to own it, because it's their religion's Holy land.

 

Islam is not anti-semetic, nor is hatred of Israel. Israel is an illegal, terrorist state that was founded on a war crime and is currently occupying the lands of 4.5 million Palestinians. All of this is, of course, underwritten by the U.S. If Muslims wish to destory Israel I can hardly blame them

 

I don't think the Palestinians deserve the land any more than the Jews do. Neither of them should have it until they can get past the religious BS that underpins the conflict.

Also it really worries me that you can hardly blame them for wanting to kill millions of Jews, unless you think that the destruction of Israel can be achieved without that result.

 

I said Muslims are - generally - justified in their dislike of Israel and wanting to destroy the Israeli state. I did not say that Muslims are justified in advocating mass violence against Israelis to achieve that end.

And yes he state of Israel can be destroyed by a land grant giving to the Palestinians all that is rightfully theirs.

 

Hmm what do you think should happen to all the Jews currently living in Israel?