Religion Debates and Discussions

The bible this, bible that, bible this....

 

And proud of it. We did a straw poll in my class, 1 kid out of 24 believed in creationism. Made me so happy

Muslims in the US are generally more liberal and open-minded than Evangelicals... so, there's that...

By the way please don't tell me you want to fight Islam with Christianity. Down that road you get sht like GWB saying that his faith guides his foreign policy. Makes the Iraq War sound like a crusade. And big surprise, Muslims don't like that so they get more radicalized.

The answer to Muslim extremism is secularism, it is not Christian extremism. You can't fight their imaginary sky-daddy with your imaginary sky-daddy because you're both so fcking sure you're right yet neither of you have any evidence to back it up.

That being said, if you have a good argument that would convert a Muslim to Christianity, I'm all ears. I have a few arguments that I reckon would stand a better chance of converting them to atheism or secularism.

 

neither of them are right tbh

 

Because they're all works of fiction written by modern age writers and weren't written with divine assistance?


Oh hey! So you proved the point!

Almost seems like to this almighty God has quite the obsession with one very particular group of dudes in a desert.

Now that being said, if you w

ant a version of religion where the world ISN'T all barely literate desert dudes, there's always the book of Mormon! I mean it might have taken Jesus longer to discover north America than the Native people but at least God got there in the end.

Oh wait that's just crazy talk isn't it. Silly me.

Jesus died so Muhammad could get away with sleeping with a 12 year old Scot free in the eyes of god?

Technically all you need to do to get saved and have every sin you've ever committed washed away is accept Jesus into your heart and believe he is divine.

Note; every sin. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

So under the eyes of your God, you could be the most altruistic person to ever live; you

could live life giving everything you have to make the world a better place, and still go to hell because you didn't believe the claims of a 3000 year old book God hasn't bothered to update.

Meanwhile, someone else could commit every sin in the book and then some, and on his deathbed decide that Jesus is divine; and God will be like "yeah aite welcome to heaven because you believe I killed my own son to forgive myself for making those sins".

Your God doesn't care. Never has. He's slaughtered more people needlessly than anyone else in the Bible combined.

Good thing he's not real; he's the most awful being to have ever been conceived of.

But it will sure as hell try man, and that's the terrifying bit.

 

That Why i dont belive in god. Im outta here

I Said that I dont belive in god so that i Dont know really. + Im not stalking you.

 

Islam is on the rise because Islamophobia is legitimizing its hatred of Western culture.
The best way to counteract ISIS and terrorist organizations is to not publicize them, and to just take actions without a lot of fuss. They thrive on fear and hate, and by feeding them, we're strengthening them. It's very difficult for a country so founded on the media to just stop giving media attention to large events, but we've seen in happen with ISIS. Like two years ago, every other news story had to do with ISIS. ISIS was everywhere. But now, the news stories about them don't get as much publicity as they did before. I feel like this is the best way to demoralize them. They want a reaction out of Western culture, like a bully wants a reaction out of his victim. If we don't give them a public reaction, they won't gain as many supporters.

 

I mean, comparing modern terrorist organizations to old civilizations is kind of a silly point. Literally everybody would have tried to take over the entire world, that's how economy was helped back then, especially in empires like Rome. The Ottomans were very powerful, and part of the reason they grew so large was because of its immense strength.
Europe was an easy target, because they were really weak. They were behind technologically, economically, and in most other ways, making them an easy place to try to take. Eventually, Europe began to thrive, and guess what? Colonies, war, etc. Everything that came with older powerful nations. Imperialism is not a feature unique to Islamic empires.

BAWSS5 makes a good point though: Why should belief in God be the determining factor in whether or not you go to heaven? If you devote your life to helping people and making the world a better place, and you believe that nobody is perfect and that humanity is by nature evil, why should you go to hell? What makes you worse than someone who sort of helped people, but didn't devote their life to it, but also believed in God?

 

Sounds like god has quite the ego eh? Believe in me or perish no matter how good you are. I don't bieleve that would be the thought process of someone who loves me more than my parents.

 

This guy is a die-hard supporter of faith.

 

"you guys... are incapable of understanding"
"dinosaurs lived with humans"
"I don't believe in evidence"


wHaT

Also Gehenna your math doesn't really check out on Adam and Eve having genes that would help them live to be 900. Are you saying that the Earth is only about a dozen generations old? What the fk?

 

So do your actions throughout your life not really matter, as long as you believe in God? Where's the line, if your actions do matter? What amount of willful sin beyond innate sin is acceptable? Is any sin beyond innate sin acceptable? If sin is a natural part of humans, is there such thing as willful sin beyond innate sin?

 

LMFAO

no lmao we are currently living in the most peaceful era in modern human history, if something like ww3 happens (SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT) we are just going to get more peaceful.

theyre not wrong either though.

i dont believe it's a good thing to convert people through oral coercion... if they wanna believe in god, so be it. if they need an, and i quote, "imaginary sky-daddy" to help them get through the day, that's cool.

i dont believe in an anthropological god, i dont believe in a sky daddy, but personally i believe we're all gods. i believe in a [god], if that makes sense to anyone.
we're all omnipotent when you think about it

isis is dying lmao we could literally jerk them off at this point and nothing would happen. isis is going to die out very soon.

they aren't doing stories on isis anymore for a few reasons:

• north korea
• no one cares about isis anymore
• people realized isis literally cant do ****
• media is corrupt and only reports on stuff that makes people scared; no one is scared of isis anymore

you dont give any logical evidence which is why no one on this thread f*cking believes you

 

you can't be good enough but you can be REALLY GOOD...
but why is it that believing in jesus is so liberating? why can a murdering serial killer with rape, incest, manslaughter, thievery, battery, assault, etc... get accepted into heaven if he believes in jesus?

living my entire life to please someone that may possibly not be there.

yeah, im not wasting my entire f*cking life on that bullsh*t.

 

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but are you comparing him to a rapist, serial killer, thief, etc.?
Also, that doesn't really answer the question he asked.

In what way? How can you know for sure what he's doing outside of this forum?