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Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by Sixtale, Aug 11, 2017.

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  1. Sixtale

    Sixtale Member

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    It's all up to you what you think about this but please talk about the topic, not about what happened before this and about me.

    You're not allowed hack on brawl and if you don't follow that rule you're getting banned.

    But if you get banned for 3+ connected accounts
    you have 3 accounts that you or someone else have hacked on.

    I want to remove "someone else have hacked on" part.

    The reason why this rule exist is because you can't know if the person who played on the account that is one of the 1/3 banned account hacked on it.

    I think it's good to let people have fun and play brawl, for me that have 3 lifetime accounts and never hacked before.

    I am against hackers and think this rule is very good. But I want to make it so people that never hacked could play. If there is a IP that don't have any accounts banned besides other players he should be allowed to keep playing.

    Another suggestion is that the rule should stay but you should be allowed to buy an unban if you are permanent banned in 6 months.

    What's the best?

    1. Brawl gets more money and happy players

    2. Brawl don't gain any money and don't get happy players that is currently banned for 6 months.

    The happy player part, I mean that don't let hackers play I want players that doesn't hack to play.

    I am not banned yet. I have 2/3 to get banned in 6 months with my 3 lifetime accounts. It's a money question.

    Another sugggestion is that you have to pay more money if you are banned in 6 months. It's worthit 100 usd to keep playing.

    The 2/3 banned accounts was a big mistake where I got scammed.
     
    #1 Sixtale, Aug 11, 2017
  2. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    This would let rich players hack and still let them buy an unban. The 6 months rule is there to fight back against the people that decide to break the rules.
    Rich people could just buy themselves an unban every time they'd get banned and still be let off the hook. If they get banned and decide to continue on alting they couldn't alt anymore after a set amount of alts since most VPN's are blocked.
    There also needs to be a cut between purchaseable bans since it'd as said above, would give rich players a big advantage.
    I'd fully support the Idea of adding a 3rd purchaseable unban and make it 4+ in order to be permbanned. But in my opinion, once you are correctly banned for 3+ you should stay banned for the 6 months,

    [Quick example about the cut] :

    This is a Staff example that putty brough up once :
    We could give Jmods the power to ban or Vanish but there needs to be a clear cut between the ranks since MODERATOR would be quite useless if JMods had the same powers. Smod and Mod are already really similar, the only big differences are IPchecks and Creative on every Server.

    ^^
    not the best example but I believe this could be put in in your case as well.
     
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    #2 Sn4x5, Aug 11, 2017
  3. NickManEA

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    Rich or not, no one is going to keep spending money.
    About the other points, I can quite agree.
     
    #3 NickManEA, Aug 11, 2017
  4. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    Trust me, those people exist. If there was still the old history, I'd show you. I banned a permbanned player for WarZ Eat 3 times in two days, after he bought an alt, lifetime MVP on it and the two unbans. He continued on buying ranks and alts for his teammates. They pretty much used him since he'd always hook em up with free ranks and that stuff xD
     
    #4 Sn4x5, Aug 11, 2017
  5. NickManEA

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    This guy robbed a bank.
     
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    #5 NickManEA, Aug 11, 2017
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This thread is obviously partly fuelled by personal experience. Although this is completely fine, telling people not to bring up what has happened to you before is counterproductive to the debate.

    It's clearly stated in the rules that you are responsible for your own account, even when you are not online:
    "This means that you are responsible for any accounts that you have logged on. If they suffer a discipline, you will too."

    I could give my alt to some shady player with a reputation of hacking and I'd be responsible for anything he did on that account. Even if I'm not currently online at the time, I am responsible for every account I have logged on.

    This is why using shared accounts is strongly discouraged, and should only be done with close IRL friends/family members whom you can trust will not break the rules. If you decide to give your account to someone who then broke the rules, this is your fault. Mistakes can, of course, happen, but you are given 2 chances before getting banned on all your accounts. This is more than enough chances for people to learn their lesson.

    We're only able to tell who was online when the account was banned.

    Let's say I blinked someone on WarZ and the recorded and reported me. I could give my account details to a permbanned player, let them bunnyhop on KitPvP, and they'd get banned quickly by a mod. It would then look as if this permbanned player was breaking the rules, even though I had broken the rules too. It is way too easy to use this as a loophole to stop yourself from getting permbanned.

    Isn't this a good thing? If unban prices doubled for each unban, the 5th unban would cost $160. I'd happily ban someone 5 times if it makes Brawl $160.
     
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    #6 SoCool21, Aug 11, 2017
  7. Sixtale

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    I will start of with answering you @sn4x5
    I agree with you. Atleast 4+ and a third unban would of been good.

    The responsibility thing is a long story but it all started out with that I bought accounts by a person that I could trust. Then he just took the accounts back and started hacking. I don't want to talk about how I got the banned first time because I didn't know the rules. This time I know the rules and would do everything to get unbanned, I would be so pissed if I got banned by that reason.
    I am currently not banned but I am very scared of that and about to buy the accounts unbans.

    I would try very very hard to keep playing brawl. But over around 600 I'm out.
     
    #7 Sixtale, Aug 11, 2017
  8. Trogy

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    That's not completely how it works. You have to be the one that hacked on all 3 accounts to be banned.
     
    #8 Trogy, Aug 11, 2017
  9. chickenputty

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    If players are rule-abiding they can appeal to be let back on; I don't see the need to allow them to buy more unbans.

    Anyways, this would be impossible to add to our store because we can't add custom code since its ran through a 3rd party, Buycraft.
     
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    #9 chickenputty, Aug 11, 2017
  10. Sixtale

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    That's how I got banned a half a year sir @trogs.
    I logged in to about 300 accounts and didn't get a single one of them banned.

    But thanks very much, then in not scared. :grinning: <3

    Okey. This is not a issue anymore because trogs said that you have to be the one who gets the accounts banned, then I'm fine.

    But would you add more unbans and stuff if you could

    I would not say no to money but at the same time get loads of staff that can ban hackers.
     
    #10 Sixtale, Aug 12, 2017
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  11. chickenputty

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    That is incorrect, you do not necessarily have to be the one that gets the account banned. That is why you take responsibility of accounts you login to.

    Our rules at https://www.brawl.com/rules state this:
     
    #11 chickenputty, Aug 12, 2017
  12. Sixtale

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    Yes that is what i mean, well

    Okey, if there is nothing to do bans is always applyable.

    Thanks for answering me everyone!!
     
    #12 Sixtale, Aug 13, 2017
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