Religion Debates and Discussions

So if God decided morals, are they founded in nothing above Him? I'd assume this is correct, because nothing is above God.

 

Yeah no kidding, I'm talking about Gods standards and the ones you bieleve in. You bieleve that every crime is equal.

 

Interesting. I'll look into this more.
I would disagree with the comparison of past generations to this generation, though. Spoiled kids will always exist, regardless of the generation. It's easy to handpick examples, but it's harder to prove a correlation. That being said, I think that the range of punishments given do have lasting effects on children, but I don't think that corporal punishment would be the only way to ensure your child isn't spoiled. It's probably just the easiest, and thus most common, way. It's important to remember that rebelling against your parents is an absolutely normal part of child development. It's a fine line that comes down to the discretion of the the individual parent, but talking in absolutes is almost always wrong, especially in psychology.

I think a lot of this discussion boils down to differing opinions about what "spoiled" means.

But, of course, I've never been a parent, and probably won't be for a while, so I'm really only guessing.

 

So God could, in theory, have said that anything was moral, and it would have become moral?

 

So then morality is fundamentally arbitrary? God wasn't told to make certain things moral, and whatever He said was moral would have been moral. Are there reasons beyond God that certain things are moral, and some are not?

 

But there are reasons for the way God chose to set up morality?

 

i was obviously exaggerating but my ideology is that violence IS okay in certain situations... all ive found through firsthand experience is that children that were beat after purposeful wrongdoings were more disciplined.

then again, it's all my personal experiences, so i can't call it for 100% of all children...
but do you really think that little timmy getting a timeout for pulling sarahs hair is the same as spanking him three or so times?

im not a parent but i have plenty of experiences and have had many situations where i'm stuck babysitting a little kid.
i would never hit a kid i dont know, especially if i dont know the parents that well, but i have spanked my nephew a few times and he has for the most part stopped doing what caused me to spank him in the first place.

spoiled kids will always exist, but more people spanked a while ago than people now.
kid breaks a glass cup on accident, tell him to not do it again firmly.
kid throws the glass cup at you after you telling him to put it down, YOU KICK THAT MOTHER****ERS ASS.

 

Are these reasons created by God?

 

I found a really convincing article for us logical thinkers.

https://www.everystudent.com/wires/Godreal.html

You know, @Gehenna , if you had used an article like this to reason with us, this would be a proper debate.

Anyway, the two sides of the argument from this source is-
Did someone intelligent actually manage to create the very complexity of our cells? Even so, is this the same "God" described in the bible? ->

Or were we accidentally created out of the billions of plants and stars and managed to stumble upon this "correct code"?

 

Are we still on the topic of sin? If so, the thought process I have is that we have to think of sins and crimes differently.

I don't think of murder as a crime that is equal to lying to someone. It's impossible for our minds to think that way.

However, in God's eyes, sin is probably a yes no kind of thing. I use probably because its impossible for us to view sin that way, and quite frankly very illogical for any of us to do so. But (I think) it says something like this in the Bible, and since it's impossible for us to understand God's mind, I'd like to use probably

That's just the tip of it. Wait till you learn that DNA has sections that don't code for proteins, but actually are there to make sure that a certain type of protein is created, and not a completely different type that will screw up your body.

The more I learn about DNA, the more I realised that it's extremely rare that we could have possibly came out of a Big Bang.

 

Are the reasons then arbitrary?

 

But if God created the reasons, why did He create the reasons the way they are?