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Discussion in 'Discussion' started by EmperorTrump45, Sep 3, 2017.

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  1. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    It takes a long time to accept. Sometimes it takes longer to deny.

    Examples... ace_blue2 and spades' apps were both denied after a month. Maryland took a month. And Pyrotheum's took over 40 days to deny. On the flipside charlotte's app was accepted after just under a month. Toki's and Carsonn's were accepted after 3 weeks, and TheTitaniumTitan wasn't pended until almost 70 days after his app was posted. Similar deal with hitchens.

    Some apps that have no chance of being accepted have also taken a long time to be denied. 74u, who had 95% -1's on his app, wasn't denied for two weeks.

    It's much more fair to the people applying if they are told to reapply in a month after a few days or a week versus after they have already waited that month. I know several people (i.e. Brazee) who have been very discouraged to be denied after their app was up for a long time and have considered not reapplying instead of going through the whole thing again. Considering that a lot of the people who do have their apps up for weeks have potential as staff, it's a shame that any of them would have that attitude.

    I'm not making this thread to complain. It's obvious the apps have been staying up for longer and that sort of thing is going to happen when the staff manager is away. I'm just curious if or when some solution will be arrived at where applicants do not have to wait a long time to find out what's good.
     
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  2. StrikerSly

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    The staff manager, cuddle, is currently 100% inactive on everything to do with brawl to my knowledge. That obviously has some effect with staff applications. I agree with you, though.
     
  3. EmperorTrump45

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    Trogs, eil and roke have all been filling in, which is fantastic. Especially trogs - most apps in the denied section are denied by him. But the issue isn't as much with apps that were made by some guy with zero posts or a history of flaming/hacking but with people who "have a shot".
     
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    It is fantastic, yes, although they can't specify 100% of their time towards this position as they have their other duties. They all have other work to do and the three of them still can't match up with Cuddle, productively speaking.
     
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    I agree with what you are saying mr. mugman. My app was sitting there for 1.5 months until it was accepted, and it was pretty annoying. I feel like a week of thought on an applicant is enough. Don't waste anybody's time and deny/trail the applicant.

    I do understand that Canoodle is away, but a week per applicant is enough time to think.
     
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    The issue is they'll, by default, tell you to reapply in a month. For some applicants, that copy and paste message could be given to them within a week of applying. While others, such as me, could receive that message 2 months into the application, which by then destroys the whole purpose of the "wait 1 month" ordeal.
     
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    there should be a requirement that, to be able to post an application, you need to meet a certain amount of posts/time registered/ratings/something to prevent apps from people that are obviously going to get denied
     
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    Unfortunately, Eil and I are not really allowed to deal with any applications except ones that are for the most part obvious denials. Anyone with "a shot" like you said, we pretty much would just make our opinions apparent and known in the staff slack. This leaves a lot of work on Roke since he has taken over accepting applicants completely with Cuddled's absence, and as you probably know, he already does a lot, and because of this, applications will occasionally be left up longer than they should be.
     
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    This has been brought up before and the problem with it is that a post requirement would just encourage post-spam so someone can get to 100 posts or whatever. Not everyone will spam posts but some people will and it's a nuisance and doesn't make them any more qualified for staff than a guy with none.

    Time registered is also an issue because you have people who have been registered on forums since 2015 but either have few to no posts or barely look at the forums. I mean its nice if someone registered on forums a while back but it isn't relevant to forum activity.

    As for ratings... anyone can get ratings. Just post memes & farm

    Yeah I'm not trying to dunk on your suggestions. Just pointing out the problems with them. Tbh I don't really think there is a good way to keep people from submitting spam applications. Everyone wants to be mod, at some point, and is going to submit an app because - screw the requirements - they really want to be mod. If you raise the bar it doesn't matter. I mean, when Brawl had an age restriction for apps (I think it was 14), you still got a ton of 11, 12, 13 year olds applying for mod

    Thanks for clarifying. Although apps are left up longer than they should be pretty much all the time, versus occasionally. I mean, half the apps in the section have been up for 20+ days (or close to that). And I think you'd agree, that's too long. Is some of the pressure is going to be taken off Roke so that these apps get dealt with in a more timely manner?
     
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    I definitely do agree, and to be exact, applications are meant to be accepted or denied within 30 days of them being posted, but even this is a bit excessive in my opinion. As far as the pressure being taken off of Roke, it's not really up to me whatsoever, but there are definitely some people on the staff team that could rise to the position of the staff manager, even if just temporary.
     
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    Get a new staff manager
     
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