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What Needs to Happen

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by tallscot, Sep 4, 2017.

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  1. 19kss

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    ok i trust you daddy socooltwentyone
     
  2. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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  3. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    I've read through this and listened to all of your points. Here's mine:

    1.) There's absolutely no excuse for inactivity since March. Peas was demoted for this reason yet cuddled is still given the benefit of the doubt. And this isn't the first time either, remember she left for a few months, came back and she was smod? Her computer being broken is absolutely no excuse. She could check the forums at least ONCE since march on her phone, let alone giving everyone a heads up/explanation as to why she's absent. She needs to be replaced if the job can't be done. Then when she's back, she can accept her role again. That isn't too big of a deal.

    2.) Yes, the staff application longevity has been an issue before she was inactive, but not to the degree of what we see now. We see players with obviously no chance at staff with apps up for almost two weeks. Cuddle was on top of that almost every day. Players with a high chance used to wait 1-2 months sometimes, but not all the time as we see it. Currently we have too long of intervals between - both the rush of staff opinions on the application and when the actual decision is made. From personal experience, everyone made their opinion on my application. It took about a month before a new issue was brought up (which I addressed) and then another two weeks for the actual decision (copy + paste message) to be made. We need a new staff manager to keep on top of things while people like Eil, Trogs, and Roke can focus on doing their own job more effectively.

    3.)Peas talked in privately with higher ups as well, he seemingly disappeared just has cuddled did in an exact mirror image situation. Staff chat isn't enough. We need clarification as players, especially to the ones who are thinking of going for staff when there isn't a manager.

    4.) 100% agree. All servers without a manager do need one ASAP.

    5.) I haven't been too big with the war scene so I have no idea if snail is active. He's been here since 2012 so I know he's experienced and honestly I wouldn't mind him as manager. Ritzy barely plays warz and when he does, he has this attitude developed that the game has had its time, which is obviously not worth his. I trust him as a mod, but certainly not smod in terms of developing the server. And he's my best friend, so I'm being anything but biased here. With party, I float in the same boat you are on. Meepism needs wildwest manager. From the few times I've spoken to him, he actually listens to the other's argument before coming to a conclusion of his own as a staff with authority/power over others.

    6.) Yep, we need a community manager. Basically before we had jayden take that role but he became very inactive and un-passionate about gamemodes that he once very was in. Such as war and warz, he couldn't touch those games for a while. Wario took on the role as event manager and we all know how that played out after the first couple weeks. Point is we need someone dedicated like you said that participates in the community.

    7.) Agreed again but this logic also includes demoting cuddled as she cannot do her job being inactive. So your opinion on that matter must change in order for that system to work your way.

    8.) A lot of staff members are inactive at 100% their own doing. Sure cuddled computer broke but she can use her phone to do her job. It's commenting on staff applications and moving them to a destination. Sure she can't judge in game activity but it doesn't hurt to take care of the obvious no's, the obvious yes' applications, and trust her staff team to carry out the maybe's and make a decision based on that. Forums do not need a computer.

    9.) Would multiple server managers work? Because I know for a fact that nobody on brawl plays every single gamemode at equal lengths to come to conclusions about each one.
     
  4. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    yeah it was tbh
    ritzy was only just promoted and before you say 'he was staff before' he was demoted for poor judgement about his teammates, teaming with banned players, giving an alt to a banned player, etc.

    trust me when i say he hasn't changed
     
  5. Daveeeeeeeee

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    130 hours is not a lot of play time on a game that's been on brawl for 2 years. That's only 5 days worth of play time. If my math is right, on average, that's about 9-10 minutes of gametime each day for the last 2 years.

    Also I don't think you should say I'm flaming by stating my opinion. Myself and many others believe the majority of the CTF committee is very inactive. The fact that you are trying to say it isn't amuses me.

    The only 2 CTF moderators that are capable of having the smod tag were mainly mentioned because the rest of the committee is generally poor in multiple areas. Inactivity is just one of the few I mentioned because it's probably the main one. Most of them don't check the forums, don't listen to community ideas or even bother replying to them.
     
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    130 hours in August

    Also, I never said that we don't have inactive CTF staff, but to say that everyone other than Scape and Kev (iirc that's who you said, /shrug) are inactive is factually incorrect and you have nothing to base that statement on.
     
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  7. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Would have been helpful if you mentioned that, if you could please name them I will tell you other reasons why they shouldn't be mod.
     
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  8. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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  9. Sn4x5

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    uh
     
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  10. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible."

    I mean uh, thanks for the mention!
     
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  11. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    sorry but @GalaThundR is most likely going to builds server manager
     
  12. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    GalaThundR is already Build manager.
     
  13. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    than so cool made a mistake
     
  14. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    I think these promotions would be far more realistic if hack tests were consistent, every 2 months like they are supposed to be. Let’s start with active smods/admins and go from there.
     
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  15. Ritzy

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    @tallscot I wasn't demoted for giving an alt to banned player, that never even happened...

    To all the people saying I'm not worthy of warz manager yet; I can understand why and yeah I've only just got mod back but what you have to realise is that I did my job for well over a year the last time I had it and I was next in line for the position. My inactivity these days is mainly due to my job irl and me wanting to do other things, however saying that I'm still online a lot of the time and do a lot for the server when I am on, so I really don't understand why I'm getting a lot of hate.

    Saying all of this I do believe @FaZe_Sn4x5 is also worthy of the position, but give me some time to also show you guys that I am as well before you make your mind up :finger:

    1. Whenever I have free time I'll come straight on to brawl but you have to know I'm a full time student holding down a full/part time job.
    2. I literally never talk about the game being bad or past it's time otherwise I wouldn't be here moderating it.
    3. I've already pushed many ideas through and helped out with the gamemode beyond belief as a JMOD and a MOD. The amount of hours I put in to helping the community do things that are unpraised for like upon coming back going to Mario about the lava glitch, to then work with him for many hours on end just being killed in full d over and over again (which was seriously mind numbing), just to try and get a major bug fixed, and that's only one of the things I do that no one realises. Who do you think provides community chosen map changes? Fixes map bugs? Adds new builds to the map? Goes to developers about server bugs? Pushes forward ideas? Like just imagine all of the other things I could get done if I were the WarZ manager that's all I'm going to say.
     
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  16. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    you try so hard lol

    you gave an alt to striker while he was banned, yes? that's why you were demoted for the week. then you ended up getting demoted in general

    you did your job for "well over a year" last time and then got demoted because of your poor judgement. twice. that's why I don't believe you're at all ready for the position because you haven't changed since your demotion. Sn4x5 is more worthy of the position than you are. you just got mod a couple days ago, chill out

    all these things is what I've seen sn4x5 doing, and you act like you're the only person that can do it

    "imagine all the other things I could get done if I were WarZ manager" right now I'm imagining all the false bans when you're just mod lmao I'd rather not jump that high
     
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  17. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    Ritzy has been helping me out with a couple of map changes, he's not lying about it, yet iirc I was the one telling Mario to ignore hurt time for Lava glitching which got it fixed within a day, no clue what he meant by it :/
     
  18. StrikerSly

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    They repromoted ritzy after they realized their mistake of demoting him in the first place. I was temp banned and providing me an alt for that breaks no staff rules, at least at that time. We both worked it out with the higher ups and they realized their mistake.

    And @ritzy you've never had mouthed the game at least once? Gimme a break my dude :smile:
     
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  19. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    if I remember correctly they demoted him for a week purposely. they didn't repromote him after you guys went and complained, they gave him a week because staff members aren't supposed to be helping out banned players, temp or not

    and then he got demoted for real so that little incident didn't even end up mattering
     
  20. Ritzy

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    I didn't say I got it fixed its more about the principle that I was there to help for hours and I want stuff to change.

    I Asked an SMOD before giving striker the account and everything was ok and I was fine doing it so I did nothing wrong which is why I re-gained my rank 2 weeks after.

    Don't get me wrong I've said stuff about the server yeah, but that was before I went for staff again and when I didn't play. The server is different now to how it was at the end of 2016 striker and you know it.
     
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