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Discussion in 'Wild West' started by FearTheDoggos, Sep 20, 2017.

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  1. Fadaad8

    Fadaad8 Well-Known Member

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    1) I like how you think, although your the only person who thinks like this, it's interesting to think about your ideas.
    2) they still bring there own gear like 99%of the time
    3) no offense but you make the it's not healthy to promote a sheriff watching... like sheriffs are new born babies xD
    4)it's just events for people to come and fight at for fun
     
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  2. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    According to the Sheriff handbook, you're required to arrest anyone who has illegal weapons, or who goes rogue, in your range, certainly in your sight. But let's just crap on the handbook, and on the gamemode, so Fadaad can watch people have consequence free pvp. This gamemode isn't about consequence free pvp.
     
  3. Fadaad8

    Fadaad8 Well-Known Member

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    I would rather listen to staff when they say don't cuff them for the time being than a handbook, and it's not like it's for a week just for about an hour
     
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  4. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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  5. Maryland

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    How exactly would we realistically display wild west in an event? Nvm, I got a new idea: Standing by proc for 1 hour watching youtube. You won't want to miss this exciting event!
     
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  6. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    Offering rewards for controlling an Indian Camp, Gold Rush for only one mine where all the ore becomes Gold for an hour, even a Base Specific Proc boost like only Tobacco 200% boost 1 hour could be a lot of fun, and more relevant than this.
     
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  7. Chilled_67

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    All of those ideas require dev time though, which we do not have. The only potential exception might be controlling an indian camp but even so....
     
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  8. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    It only requires Dev time for the FIRST time, then just give Staff the power to turn on a Gold Rush, Indian Camp KoTH, or Rebel Base/Cartel Bonus Hour, and we have events forever.

    It wouldn't take too much effort to have all ores respawn into Gold for an hour at a mine, or to add in one chest at an Indian camp that would spawn epic loot at the end of an hour.
     
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  9. Chilled_67

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    FIRST time is still time.

    As much as we would love to do these ideas, we just can't.
     
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  10. Fadaad8

    Fadaad8 Well-Known Member

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    I like the first idea but like chilled said dev time and time
    Gold rush meh good money I guess but not much time for non ranks and yet just making ppl go to mines and min boring
    Specific proc booster would help but not really an event and noobs wouldn't really be able to get there because the pros would take it
     
  11. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    These ideas are ok, but only as far as relevance to the "roots" of wildwest.
    They have something in common.
    They are all exceedingly boring and completely unattractive to any kind of player base.
    That is the main problem with WildWest as it is. It is not interesting to play by mining, or processing. What makes it fun are the fights that take place, or the conversations with friends. Your viewpoint is strictly the viewpoint of a person who does not take part in any kind of group activity. That is a gross misinterpretation of wildwest.
    If we wanted to mine gold we would be playing Raid. If we wanted to farm mobs that give us no loot, we would play a game like WarZ.
    All of this would be fixed with coding, but its simply not an option. I want this stuff to change just as much as you do, I have put in more time than you could possibly imagine into this gamemode and attempting to keep it going.
    I do respect your opinions, but I will continue to disagree. We have difference experiences of WildWest and that shapes our views of it.
    This is unrelated to the current thread, (as the League is only half run by staff) and is not necessarily an event. Its almost entirely community based. In fact excluding you, 100% of the wildwest community who responded to the idea when we were bringing it up support the league.
    We have all stated our opinions, we have no further need to continue or it may get into flame.
    Again, I appreciate your opinions and ideas, please post more onto the ideas section. We could use some more ideas similar to what you specified (if we ever end up allowed to have coding) for any future updates that may be possible.
     
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  12. Dsawemd

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    edit: @meepism I like fights, what I don't like is having zero consequences for dying. Also, I regret that brawl doesnt have time to make WW better.

    Fine then here's some ideas for No Dev Time Required Events that also are more representative of Wildwest gameplay:

    Manually run KoTH: Designated Cartel (easiest, as it displays who is in control), base, Train location, pvp village/drug base, or other location is set as the goal. After 30 mins, the winning team gets a prize. Imagine if Sir Boodle's pen was a KoTH, whomever was left inside it after 30 mins won a reward.
    Great Horse Race: Everyone pays a fee to enter, and runs using a horse with speed of 0.25 (pony or donkey). They race from one location to the next, with no violence between contestants allowed (maybe some Episode I Sand Raider shenanigans could happen, but no one who is racing is allowed to go rogue). If need be, they can race to various points around a town. At each checkpoint a staff is watching to make sure no one takes a shortcut but hits all the checkpoints. Winner gets a portion of the entry fees. An example course could be Shaniko Conductor -> Shaniko Sheriff Station -> Southern Shaniko Drug Dealer (the one who is in his own little base) -> Shaniko Home Improvement -> Shaniko Conductor = One lap.
    Hide and Seek: Just like tracking a Rogue, except you don't have a compass to point out the Person you are looking for. One staff hides, and tells everyone a town. They could be inside the town, or at any of the locations nearest the town, including locations that are not marked on the map, like Ellsworth Mansion or Frisco Train etc. First person to find them wins a prize. Maybe they give hints, idk.
    Lumberjacking Contest: Wipe inventories somehow first. At a specific town, first person to reach 100 logs wins a prize.
     
  13. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    So basically just give new players 0 chance at winning events in order to keep it "real"

    We have horse races on party.

    However, I do think this is a good idea, and could be an event that we could host regularly in the League possibly
     
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  14. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    OMG YES. sort of. Create more incentives to succeed at the actual gameplay! Don't just give anyone who will only play for free fights a place on an open world rpg gamemode, that kind of play is for battle royale etc.
     
  15. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Would you be opposed to allowing us to /tp people to the horse race? or the KoTH?
     
  16. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    Yes! to both. edit: I would be opposed to both

    Part of the KoTH is getting to the place that is contested, it should be dangerous just to be anywhere near the contested area.

    The horse race should be announced so that people have plenty of time to buy a pony or empty a donkey and get to the starting line, no need for TP there.

    edit: for some of these ideas, I am assuming mods can fly and spectate and stuff
     
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  17. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Where are you getting the idea that we are hosting "free fights" ? Please read the rules and info about the league before you make an argument against it. They must bring their own gear, which would encourage people to play the game more if they were to see how real gameplay is from fights. If people are perhaps lended a set for their first time in a tournament and see how fun it is to pvp with a full set of gear, they would start playing the game to be able to participate in further events

    And how exactly do you plan on having people participate in an event that they can't get to?
     
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  18. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    1) You told me that you provide gear to people who don't have it, and then wipe inventories. The experience of top tier pvp should be behind a gameplay gate
    2) I oppose all staff TPs or gear giving for events, reread my answer. Yes I oppose TP to both KoTH and Race
     
  19. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    nvm, you should make an event ideas thread. Please discuss it there.

    I never said anything about "wiping" inventories as I have no capability of doing so.
     
  20. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    KoTH at Kootenai Indian Camp, whomever controls the large fire pit at the end of half an hour wins 50k. boom done. everyone can get there.
    Race at Shaniko, pm for Fee and Checkpoint Details. Or post it on the forums on a wednesday for a saturday race.

    @meepism
    This is pvp without consequences, that is what I am referring to
     
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