Spawn Protection

Removing spawn protection altogether will just make the problem worse and make it even easier to spawncamp. So your idea seems very counter-intuitive. Also, it has been said that spawntrapping is a big issue on the minds of the developers and that they are working on a way to fix it. For now we will just have to deal with and be patient.

 

Forgive me I misread the post, but now that I understand your idea, I still don't think that will be much more beneficial. Players will still just wait for the timer and then shoot then the second it comes off. I guess unless it's long enough to allow the team to push the spawncampers back. This also brings up another issue that it may be almost too good to be able to kill people with spawn protection. Despite, what matters is that the admins are working on it, and hopefully when they implement it, that it will fix the problem to be much less of an issue.

 

if you ought to remove spawn prot completely then there would be no new players. lol

 

no i read the first sentence

 

are you actually retarded? I was responding to what you said lmao

 

"no" isnt that answering your question?

 

Heeyyy, finally! Now just keep making pointless threads on things brawl will never change, get past the first layer of thickness in your brain and maybe you'll come up with a sensible thread and contribute something to brawl!

 

If you tone what 19kss said down a bit, he's actually pretty right. I personally think that the system works just fine for what we can do right now, and that the problem isn't with the protection, but with the players wanting kills enough to spawnkill. You don't lose protection until you start shooting or after 5 or so seconds. 5 seconds is plenty of time to run and take cover unless you're hella laggy. Most people aren't smart enough to do that, are focusing on killing the spawnkillers, or trying to take out whatever turrets are there. Focus on running, idiots. Either way, what the hell is supposed to be done with the spawn protection? No spawn protection would be even worse, while increasing spawn protection would allow players to get to close to objectives without shooting. We can't prevent the usage of killstreaks near the spawnpoints because combat dogs, helis, etc would still kill. It would be overpowered if killstreaks didn't target near the spawnpoints, because people could sit there behind that wall. There's very little that can be done to solve this issue. I understand where you're coming from, but out of all the ways to f*ck up the game a bit more, I don't think removing spawn protection is the answer here. Could you possible give some other suggestions on how to go about this in a way that wouldn't affect something else too drastically? Additionally, the problem with the teams and matchmaking has very little to do with spawnkilling, but actually with the fact that somehow too many good players end up being on the same team. Matchmaking has its ups and downs just like any other game.

TL;DR - Removing spawn protection is honestly a terrible idea, give us some new ideas please.

Overall, you can generalize my response with just two words. See below.

 

for sentries you can, just make a range where you can place sentries, so not at spawns.

 

What I meant is that it would have little effect due to the other killstreaks still having an effect around spawns, but you're right, that can be limited. I didn't completely explain what I was getting at there.

I apologize if you feel that I was intentionally coming off as a d*ck, but I assure you that was not my intention. I said there was very little we can do, not that there is absolutely nothing we can do. However, now that you mention it, using the older system does sound a little bit better. Not sure why you didn't start off with that, and why nobody else mentioned it until now, including me. I would have completely agreed and not said anything if that was included in your original post. If we were to revert the spawn protection, a lot of the gamemode objectives would have to be rearranged, especially for domination. Regardless of a spawn protection change, I think a lot of the objectives could still be slightly tweaked for the better such as Carrier DOM, but that's an entirely different discussion. It's not that I didn't think there wasn't a solution, it's more so the fact that nothing that I could think of at the moment seemed to have very much impact, and I didn't see you suggesting any alternatives besides just blantly removing the spawn protection, which would actually make the problem worse.