To Atheists...

God is a crutch for many and it's ok if you are willing to accept that crutch but I believes it is severely detrimental because it leads to an acceptance of anomalies in the universe that can be written off as "God works in mysterious ways" along with looking to someone else to solve your problems instead of accepting your problems and fixing them yourself and realizing what you are capable of.

 

No real reason to argue about it, on both a religious and practical level.

 

IF U BELIEVE IN GOD U BEEN BRAINWASHED SINCE U WERE A KID OR U WERE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT A SAD TIME, THIS IS FACTS.

 

If religious recruit mainly childrens, depressed people, or drug addicts as you said, doesn't it appear to be an abuse of a period of mental weakness?

 

It's funny how no one considers that they might have been brainwashed into believing that the theory of evolution and the big bang are facts from a young age. lol

 

triggered

 

People will be having this debate until the world ends. I have my beliefs, you have yours, and I will not try to change your mind about anything. If everybody had this attitude the world would be a better place. Of course, people with who follow destructive, religious, or racist practices like ISIS should be obliterated. I find it disturbing that so many so-called "Christians" repeatably try to force there religious on people that don't follow their religious practices. I mean atheists do the same exact thing. If you ask me we should just chill and stop arguing with each other or we will continue to kill each other out of our stupidity.

 

OH NO YOU STARTED IT AGAIN

For me it's important to mock and criticism religion because there are so many who are afraid to, who are unwilling to because they see it as an idea that is above criticism. I mean look at the whole concept of blasphemy. Blasphemy is basically that you can't say anything bad about religion or you get punished. I can't think of another prominent ideology that has the equivalent, apart from fasicst regimes.

How does our faith in Jesus Christ bring you any harm? It doesn't. If you were just Christian and you kept it to yourself and you shut up about it, I wouldn't mind. But you poison your children with it. You poison your government with it. Christianity has caused many a person to go out onto the streets and protest the gays, simply because they find it offensive. Christianity has always been a force against change. So while the act of you believing in God isn't a problem in itself, it almost certainly RESULTS in problem, and that's where I take issue.

Again, the "if I'm wrong my consequence is far worse" line of argument is a false dichotomy. Pascal's Wager it's called, I believe, and it's moronic. You're an atheist about the Hindu gods, so why not believe in them? You have nothing to lose. Why not put a coin under your tongue so you can pay the ferryman for passage to the Greek Underworld? The reason you don't is the same reason I don't bother praying to Jesus. You know the Greek gods are a ridiculous idea. I know Christianity is a ridiculous idea.

I would put forward that your friend hasn't cured a drug addiction, she's merely found a different drug. For why do people do drugs? To escape from their unbearable reality? Sounds a lot like believing in Jesus to me. I don't know about you, but I'd rather know the truth and have to learn to deal with it than to live in ignorance, even if it made me happy. The only freedom is choice and the only true choice is an informed one. Therefore, to me, truth is freedom. If your entire worldview is one of ignorance, you are not truly free.

I also resent your implication that "atheism" should've or could've saved your friend. I'm glad she's better now but atheism is not another ideology, like Christianity. Christianity is a teaching, it has a holy book and it has instructions for how to live your life and it has rules. Christianity can (and I'm glad it does help) people from time to time, because of its teachings. Atheism cannot save people from a drug addiction, but nor does it have to. Atheism isn't an ideology, it is not a belief and it is not a teaching. All it is, is not believing in God. To illustrate my point, imagine that there are people who believe in Unicorns (Unicornists) and people who don't (Anti-Unicornists). Your statement reads as follows:

"My friend suffered from drug addiction for most of her life, until she became a Unicornist. I wonder if Anti-Unicornism could've saved her the same way?"

You see how ridiculous this is right? You're suggesting that the very act of NOT believing in unicorns should somehow be able to save someone from an addiction? It makes zero sense.

By the way I have a new question for you about creationism. If the entire universe is 6,000 years old, how can we see the stars? Only a tiny fraction of the stars in the sky are within 6,000 light years of us, and so if the universe were 6,000 years old we'd just be able to see Alpha Centauri and basically that's it. Instead we can actually see stars that are millions of light years away. How come?

Are you gonna suggest that

A) Light can move faster than 300,000 m/s? This is a law of physics btw, you better have a good mathematical or experimental proof. Or
B) The stars aren't actually that far away? Even though they obviously are? And if they're all within 6,000 light years then basically the entire study of astrophysics goes out the window?

ah, yes. Have we also been brainwashed into thinking that the earth is round?

Quick, we better put on our tin foil hats so the government mind rays can't reach us!!

 

It doesn't. So long as people don't project their beliefs unto others, then really no-ones in the wrong. Should Aethiests try to project onto Christians or a like if they don't openly ask for opinions? No, and it shouldn't go vice versa.

I just want to touch on this, and by no means do I intend to insult you. In my opinion, if you recognize the certain flaws but still hold your faith, that is more faith than otherwise ignoring the flaws. A good example is my Father; he's a mechanical engineer and a Christian. He believes more or less that God set the Universe and all it's wonder in motion and directed it a little. There's no reason to be scientifically illiterate or ignorant; it's not bull, just as you say your religion isn't.

I do not fall under any particular umbrella and really just want to throw my 2 cents in as this caught my eye.

 

So basically some people believe in god and the rest don't and they all have different views of god and religion.

 

JUST WHEN YOU THINK THE FORUM HAS DIED...

HERE COMES GEHENNA TO RISE IT FROM THE GRAVE LIKE JESUS WAS SUPPOSED TO!

In all seriousness tho God exists and she's a pony.

 

brony reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeé

 

this thread ^^

 

Basically me everyday at school