To Atheists...

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Oh it's crossed my mind. Sure maybe our laws of physics are somehow wrong or barely scratch the surface but the post of the scientific study of physics is that it's the BEST we've got. We can acknowledge that we're probably never really gonna fully understand how the universe works but at the same time, what's the point of doing all these calculations and experiments if we just throw it all out the window "because God". I'm perfectly open to new ways of looking at things, as long as they're backed up by some kind of evidence. Prove to me that God can travel faster than the speed of light. Prove it to me. Pwease?

the rest of your reply is just sci-fi stuff that sounds cool, but made-up as hell. I've never even seen star wars but I know the stuff you're describing is just as realistic.

 

You guys are telling me that if a kid is born with a disability or 47 chromosomes like some of you on this thread. God made that happen? God would make people suffer for no reason. What about kids that are born with cancer? What about giving strep throat and virus's? You guys need to rethink about your "GOD". The truth is nobody really knows how we got here and they created this to stop people from going crazy and freaking out. Stop making these pathetic posts.

 

Does it implies that you can prove what he's capable of in the Bible? Could you extend a bit on that? I'm interested

Good point, if childrens are innocents, so why would God punish them? And if God can do anything, why doesn't he creates good people insthead of making bad ones and punishing them for eternity? Sounds quite sadistic ... is he that bored in heavens?

 

im not religious enough to know much about this so correct me if im wrong but isnt the bible and literally everything about what gehenna is saying, all manmade lmao meaning it was all created by people? similar to how children come up with imaginary friends

 

well he thinks it was written by God or something, but the point is - if he's wrong, how would he know? the genius of the religious indoctrination is that they've trained him not to trust "the word of man" over "the word of God". Never mind the fact that the "word of God" is in fact, something that people made up. By doing this they've made him distrustful of his fellow man's attempts to prove the Bible wrong. It's super f--ked up.

Circular logic in a nutshell basically. God is all-knowing because it says so in the Bible. How do we know the Bible is accurate? Because God wrote it, and he's all-knowing. How do we know he's all-knowing? Because it says so in the Bible.

the really really really sad thing is that religion has messed up Gehenna and others' minds so much that they actually can't see this. it's like a drug; it messes with your cognitive functions.

 

You know he's going to answer that with a "God has revealed to me" or something like that to avoid the circular logic thingy ...

 

I don't believe in gods, but I don't think believing in a god is a bad thing, unless you take it to an extreme.
I believe in living life and trying to be a good person,
and as answer to life questions as: "What created the universe" I think science has the best shot at explaining that.

 

But why would he create sinners? That's what I don't get.

And if children are born disabled, did they sinned while being a foetus? It just doesn't make sense.

 

yes, nobody knows what was going on then. sO WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE?

 

So how do a sin from someone can affect someone else? Magic? If God did not intervened, who judged the sinner's action as a sin? And who decided the punishment? And if Adam and Eve were tricked by Satan, then it's Satan's fault, not theirs. Punishing the entire humanity for that makes no sense.

These beliefs raise far more questions than it answers

 

please gehenna, tell me how you know the bible is the word of god

 

(Keep in mind I do not believe in religion, however I have lived in a religious household so I like to say I'm well-informed).

I consider religion a life goal. An impossibly high goal that is literally impossible to reach for many, many reasons. It's human nature to progress and set goals for their future so they can advance not only themselves, but the entire race of humanity.
It does not matter just how impossible a specific goal is. Some people will aim towards it because, well, people are incredibly stubborn. Humans have incredible stubbornness and determination. The goal of reaching Heaven and praising God is not only what gives these people "purpose" but it gives them the determination to live.
Everyone has goals, regardless of what you might think. These peoples' goals are to reach Heaven and praise God, so in turn this gives their lives "meaning" in a sense.

I'm not saying I disapprove of anyone's beliefs. If you truly believe you live to pray and serve God and enter Heaven, live your life to the fullest to reach that goal. But do not force your views onto others that do not believe in such things.
Just my two cents.

 

Being all powerfull is impossible, because he can't do something he can't undo. God isn't all powerfull because it would simply be a paradox.

 

you deserve all the agree ratings for every reply you make here

 

Yes it has.

Which is why we have developed the scientific method?

'cuz for thousands of years people believed disease was caused by sin or unclean things or whatever but then, through experimentation we discovered it was really germs.

For thousands of years we believed that we were on a flat planet in the center of our known solar system of like maybe 6 other planets, but then through experimentation we discovered we're not the center of anything, by a longshot.

We used to think that humanity was on a pedestal above other animals, but through experimentation, testing, and peer review, we discovered that we're actually one part of a family of apes and that we share a lot in common with the animals around us.


In fact we used to not know a lot of things we assumed we knew... and we thought we knew these things because of religions.

So yeah, there's likely a lot of things we don't know about the universe or our existence but if I'm gonna put any faith into being able to claim a semblance of knowledge about the world we live in, I'm going to put that faith into the system that has enabled us to have this conversation by literally doing the math to have small hunks of metal fly around our globe hundreds of thousands of meters in the air,
remotely, at a precise speed so we can bounce radio waves off them and communicate via electronics...

Than I am going to believe that a single book written thousands of years ago by some dudes in a desert and translated an amazing amount of times through multiple languages which claims a woman turned to salt for daring to look at a gay city can predict the future.

***47 chromosomes***

We have reached a theoretically impossible level of potato now boyos

They would be almost twice as human as the rest of us.