Holding the flag in ctf

nowhere in the rules does it say "you aren't allowed to parkour out of map" and yet that is against the rules. do the staff need to add that rule specifically or can people just use common sense?

same goes with playing the objective. it's common sense that you should not be able to ruin the game for others just for your personal gain. and don't bullsh*t me with that "it's strategic" crap, that's an excuse to build up more xp. if you have the opportunity to capture the flag, you do it. that's all there is to it. quit trying

 

That's obviously map exploiting. It's hard to pinpoint what might or might not break the common sense "rule" due to the nature of it. Try another example.

But... it is..?

no

 

then explain it to me. if you have the opportunity to capture the flag, and the enemy team isn't holding your flag and is unable to take it, how is holding the flag instead of winning the game "strategic" other than to your own personal gain? delaying the game = ruining it for others, so anything that has to do with that is against the rules due to common sense. I'll wait

 

But that's exactly what makes it strategic. Extending the game gives you significantly more credits/exp than winning the game. I thought we established this. All that something needs to be to be strategic is to be a plan that helps you achieve a goal. Doesn't take much to qualify for that.

I'm 95% sure that being a party pooper isn't against the rules.

ok sorry to keep you waiting

 

so ruining the game for everybody else to gain more minecraft pixels. I can tell you're about 13 years old with no care for the consequences of this, aka killing off the server.

you've never been staff before so I'm 100% sure you're wrong

 

You've now resorted to insulting my imaginary age and presumable staff experience to progress your position in an argument. Should we just quit while you're ahead? You've obviously won.

Firstly, I'd like to point out that I'm well over the age of 13. If you'd like to know, PM me.

Secondly, as toxic as I may seem, being in a staff position completely changes the way you behave during that time. I've been a Senior Moderator, on a network with a size similar to Brawl, on an official pixelmon server, and a dozen other servers. I can provide proof of my most notable ones, so PM me for those as well.

Lastly, not sure what either of these have to do with whether or not holding the flag is technically against the rules. Elaborate, please?

 

I'm speaking of being staff on brawl, not your "other servers" with different rules than the ones we have here.

if it kills off the server, it's against the rules. common sense.

 

I mean... the rules are pretty in-depth where I used to be on. It's a minigame network, so you can assume that there was some sort of similarity between the two sets of rules. Obviously I've never been staff here specifically, but I do have some understanding of how things should work.

Brawl's minigames consist 90% of pvp-oriented gamemodes. The very existence of them kills off newbies because pro players exist. Better throw the whole server out.

I really don't think you can redeem yourself after your last post, but god knows you'll try...

 

judging from your posts I don't think you do

except when a game mode is one that doesn't keep new players, the staff attempt to fix it. you can't really punish a game mode. however, when it's a player that's making the difference then you better believe they're going to try and stop it.

who even are you smh

 

Another irrelevent slew of letters... Just gonna keep going...

You don't say.. Also, I cut out the rest of the the post because it's pointless and I don't have a slightly witty or dumb comment for that one.

Hope this helps.

Spoiler: A Helping Hand

Maybe I should reiterate here... The goal of my argument is to either stop staff members from punishing for this, or to add it to the rules. If it's not covered by the current rules specifically like map exploiting is, then it shouldn't be punishable.

We should probably take things down a notch before we get marked as flaming. Just a suggestion.

 

edited out "insult" because you knew it wasn't one

"I don't have a response to your argument"

nope, still have no clue who you are. must be new

or staff could keep punishing for it until they get it added into the rule book just for you. sound good?

 

It is, found a better choice of words.

I would if there was anything significant to respond to or if I had a stupid comment.

I joined the forums less than a year after you my dude. If I'm new, you're new. Obviously you aren't, so I'm not. Could've figured this out with a simple click...

You're completely missing my point here...

This thread has just turned into a 2-person debate. All that's left for us to do is repeat what we've already said and for some reason insult things that have zero relevance to the conversation. I'm going to hold off on responding until someone brings something new to the table. No point in going back and forth anymore. I'm handing you a freebie here. Use it to get your last laugh in, or don't, whichever.

 

well I mean my argument must be significant otherwise staff wouldn't be punishing people for holding the flag.

if I've never heard of you and you've been here since 2014, that's really sad considering I used to no life the **** out of this server lmao

am I? you said staff should stop punishing people for it as it isn't in the rulebook. staff can punish for it if they believe it to be an offense worthy of it. that's all there is to it

that's called an argument my friend. if you're going to hold off because you have no response to mine then so be it.

 

wait.. tf? thats a rule now? it just seems like although most people would use it to gain credits, others could hold it to "hide" the flag from the enemy team, indirectly delaying the game... it seems as though staff can't really punish players for that since theres two reasons. oh well, we all know why u do it benny

 

Alright @tallscot, you want players that hold the flag to be punished because they are extending the game, which ruins it for players. And you are saying that anyone that ruins the game for the other team should be punished because it is "common sense". If this is the case, shouldn't anyone who spawncamps in objective gamemodes be punished? Spawncamping is an even bigger problem and with your logic we should punish everyone who spawncamps correct? Too bad that would probably kill the server. XD

 

Ice Bear says that spawn camping is actually common sense because it prevents them from completing the objective, not capturing the flag gets you more xp and kills but does not complete the objective, Ice Bear says before you say that by that logic anyone who does not play the objective should get punished, Ice Bear is not asking for people who not capture the flag to be punished because it isn't against the rules. Ice Bear does think that the owners or creators of the game mode should clarify if it is or is not against the rules because this could fall in exploiting possibly.

 

Do mods actually watch the forums if they aren't specifically tagged? Also, no don't just hold a flag, that's just sweaty, pad your stats in other game modes like tdm/kc/domination/etc. Prolonging games for the sake of a spawn trap empties the server and encourages new players to never come back.

 

flag is bad to hold

 

saw @Eil looking at the thread yesterday but he didn't bother to post a reply, might be because he doesn't play war

except the game mode isn't meant to last more than 4 minutes unless you have two really garbage teams facing each other who can't capture for sh*t. if you want a game mode that lasts more than 4 minutes go ask the war staff to implement a new one instead of ruining it for others. keeping new players is more important than giving you a little bit more xp.