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  1. Epicfurno

    Epicfurno HYDRA Leader

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    Isaac newton stated that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. That being said if god is real then wouldn't there be an opposite? And what started reality. I don't think there is a god. I think there is a force that designed reality. Not a being. But a force that governs and follows the laws of physics ( idk if I'm wrong or right here :v Its 1:33 am rn). The complex design and patterns of the universe seem to point towards this. I just partly think that because we don't really know we make up stories around it. The Bible from what people at my church say is that it is mostly just a story that teaches you lessons. Not to take everything literally.
     
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    Ice Bear says nothing makes nothing. If nothing made nothing than there would be continuously nothing. There would be no universe therefore the world was never nothing but was always something which is a first cause. Ice Bear says that nothing never existed at a point. Ice Bear defines a god as the one(s) or thing(s) that started it all. Ice Bear is not motioning any god in particular but the possibly of a god who just set things into motion and left.
     
  3. Gohabsgo

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    This proves nothing but this could be a reasonable response, and I can't deny it's possibility. I don't bieleve in god but I've come to realize I can't deny the possibility that one exists. However this argument does nothing for proving the Christian god/Christianity which I definitely do not bieleve in. There is nothing to suggest Christianity is the correct religion over a bajillion other ones
     
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    Ice Bear says that why this religion is better than that is a matter of faith and purely faith alone.
     
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    Gohabsgo understands that but Gohabsgo would never bieleve in something without it being firmly backed by logic.
     
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    Ice Bear says that is perfectly justified. Ice Bear asks if you are mocking Ice Bear by speaking in third person?
     
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    Gohabsgo answers that Gohabsgo is doing it out of admiration of Ice Bear
     
  8. Epicfurno

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    I'm a nontheist. It means I don't believe in a god but I don't reject it. Atheists reject the idea so I'm not that :v
     
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    Ice Bear says so you mean agnostic?
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    a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
     
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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    So by denying this, you're saying our universe, proven by science to be about 14 billion years old, is infinitely old, and has no beginning?

    I'll expand later two exams today xD
     
  12. 19Cameron91

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    What if this is scientists on the verge of proving the existence of Heaven and Hell? "Other universes with different laws."
    Also, why would God not care? Just because the world will be destroyed one day doesn't mean God doesn't care about it.

    You're too materialistic. You don't think there's a deeper meaning to the power of emotions? I bet you can't tell me what love is, and this "subjective morality" is rather dangerous. It tells me Hitler did nothing wrong, and Martin Luther King did nothing good. It's all just opinion, and in this existentially nihilistic world, nobody's opinions matter. "The man who rapes a child is just as morally wrong as the man who says 2+2 = 5."
     
  13. Epicfurno

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    emotions are literally just chemicals reacting in the brain. Ever heard of happieness? It's a chemical called dopamine. I think you have heard this. Same with all other emotions. Just a signal that helped us survive. Evolved over millions of years. And love is just hormones creating a reaction in your brain. I just proved you wrong :>

    And 2+2=5 is theoretical mathematics. I know someone who has a PhD or masters in that field XD.
     
  14. Gohabsgo

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    You want to know a dangerous way to think? You've told me that all sins are equal. I've also asked you if God sees the difference in degree between murder/rape and lying about taking out the trash and your answer was that he sees all sin as the same. Now that's a pretty dangerous and rather disgusting way of thinking. That's why religion should stay way out of politics.
     
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    what? absolutely not. the universe IS approximately that old. we don't know what started it. and we don't know what started the thing that started it. I'm merely pointing out how illogical it is to therefore assume God is real as a first mover.
     
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    Correction: The big bang was 14 billion years ago. A theory that I found states that before the big bang occurred everything was compressed into an unstable mass. This mass was the size of a baseball from what I have heard. It finally was too unstable and exploded. That was the big bang. And the reason why something can be infinite is because time isnt even real. Time is how we perceive a series of events. Some animals experience time faster, some slower. And at the speed of light time becomes slower and almost non-existent. Hope this made sense. Writing this while studying for a history test :V
     
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    Love is not just an emotion. Love is also an action. It's also an object. Love has many opposites as well.

    Prove to me 2+2 = 5.

    I have a question for Catholics. What counts as good works? You guys believe good works and faith saves you from Hell. As a Protestant, I don't believe good works can save you. Only faith.
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  18. Epicfurno

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    Love is just an emotion. Which is a chemical reaction which causes you to do certain things. :v. I'm trying to tell you something so basic yet you clearly aren't willing to let go of your beliefs as I have done many times. I was once Christian then learned more amour the universe. And I personally can't prove 2+2=5 yet through a certain mathematic algerithum it can. I said I know someone who can prove it. I didn't say me. I admit I don't know what is behind everything. You are just saying god because you don't look at the scientific view. And the scientific view doesn't disprove a higher power. It simply questions it. And i would rather not just live by a book that is over a thousand years old. https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/775273/contradiction-prove-22-5. I found a link proving the math equation XD.
     
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    Mankind itself is dangerous. We torture this planet with our very presence. We're like fleas on a dog. When Adam and Eve first sinned, the Earth became cursed.
    Mankind doesn't have a solid understanding of what's right and wrong. We're always change our moral code. We may go back to the moral code of ancient Europe where they didn't care whether you "did it" with a goat or your little sister.
     
  20. Epicfurno

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    And faith is just you thinking something. You can put all the faith in the world that a paper clip will just float off but that's not going to happen. SO faith is just your belief something will happen even though it may not. AKA a false sense of hope.
     
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