Why does fantasy beat reality?

Idk fam. People believe in lots of stupid sht. My best guess is that, in ancient times, religion was a way of understanding the natural world. It wasn't exactly logical, but this was before modern science. Then, as we begin to develop scientific thinking and understand the world through observation and experiments, we no longer need religion. But it's very hard for an individual to tell his entirely religious family and community that he thinks it's made up. And when you're fed religion as if it's truth, from birth, it's actually quite unlikely that you'll think critically about it and come to your own conclusions. Not to mention all the various punishments/retributions that existed for atheists and people who didn't now to religious orthodoxy.

 

you think way too much good lord

 

People believe fantasy because it helps to soften the idea that we live in a world where we're basically meaningless, existing in a timespan that is minuscule compared to how long the universe itself has existed. As long as it makes you feel nice, why not believe it?

 

stop making threads

 

+1

 

I personally think reality and fantasy have the same rating. Sure in fantasy you can imagine countless possibility but you won't really have the same feelings of real life. In reality you can truely feel emotions like love And hate and anger and all these different types of emotions. But that's just my opinion

 

Because many of the major ancient civilizations forced religion on their people and any people they conquered and traditions stick, what else do you think? This is basically your 80th thread on whether or not God is real. And yes, that is what this thread is.

 

Simply because it's very easy and comforting to have those Beliefs. No one wants to think that we just end.

 

how about the parts of the bible that say that you should stone people for working on the sabbath, etc.?

lol now it's Orwellian to define homophobia slavery and sexism as "hateful"? Sorry Gehenna but these things are hateful. And they're all in the Bible.

and the Constitution does say that a black man shall be counted as 3/5 of a white man. It was designed as a compromise between the Northern and Southern states. The Census determines how many electoral votes/house seats a state gets and so it's based on population. The Southerners said everyone should be counted, so that they get fair representation, but the Northerners said that black people shouldn't be counted if the Southerners aren't going to let them vote. 3/5 was a compromise.

This is the point Gehenna - documents such as the Bible and Constitution should be amended over time because they were made in a different era and reflect a different moral code. The Constitution, as impressive as it is, was written by racists and sexists and the language in that document that reflects those views should be, and has been, amended.

 

why don't you observe that law? where in the Bible does it say that you should disregard that law?

also yeah my point is that the compromise was amended to no longer be in effect... just as stupid sht in the Bible should be amended.

wait you just said that the old laws such as killing people who work on the sabbath, are no longer in effect. but then you say that Jesus didn't abolish or change it? these are contradictory statements

also why are you throwing in drunkards and liars with theives. drunks are making personal choices. liars are not good people but they have freedom of speech unless they lie under oath or slander others. why does the bible keep trying to dictate people's personal choices?

anyway do I take your statements to mean that you DON'T like how human law is changing? or that you don't like human law full stop?

there's no law in the Bible against banking fraud. why? banks hadn't been invented yet. if we just went by the Bible's laws, so much nasty sht would be legal

 

this is a topic i like. a lot of this is my own thoughts not really source-cited, but some does hold facts and what does i'll source-cite.

in ancient times, the world was not as known to humans as it is now. back then, faith was the way of explaining the world. for example, a thunderstorm means god is mad at us. the more faithful you are, the better things will happen to you and you will end up with a happy afterlife (this is a very generalized christian belief, just for an example.) this actually ended up causing problems within the church which led to the protestant reformation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformation) which believes that faith alone is good enough to get into heaven, while catholics generally believe that good works and what-not can also get you on the "good side", and they responded with the counter-reformation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Reformation).

anyways, back to ancient times to help explain this. the very first "faith" for humans was based on animals, which is referred to as animism (or animal worship to keep it simple) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_worship) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism). people in theory are inclined to worship animals b/c they possess traits that we do not, such as being able to fly (birds) or are really fast (jaguars). this is why a lot of artworks from the indigenous americas and other places such as the Kwakwaka’wakw mask (http://www.seahawks.com/news/2014/1...o-display-university-washingtons-burke-museum) are animal based. a mask like this would be used in ritual for higher ranking people iirc. a lot of prehistoric artwork also involves animals, whether that be for hunting or ritual (https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit...hic-mesolithic-neolithic/a/apollo-11-stones-2) (https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit...ap/paleolithic-mesolithic-neolithic/a/lascaux). basically what i'm saying is that people especially during ancient times gravitated towards animals as a source of faith b/c they did not have characteristics that humans did, and that was seen as supernatural and holy. obviously, religion has changed but some people still follow this, for example in pockets of the americas.

edit i was rushing and forgot: over time, these beliefs evolved into what we know today such as the abrahamic religions, hinduism, buddhism, etc. (if any1 is unfamiliar w/ these i can explain). faith systems are always changing (ex: in oceania, the easter island moai were said to have their backs to the sea and were part of their religion. as resources began to dwindle [cuz yknow, small island] people began to lose faith in these statues and toppled them and later adopted a different faith, christianity [cuz yknow, europeans] https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/ap-art-history/the-pacific/a/easter-island-moai) faith will always be changing as people realize what gives them hope and what does not. remember, people believe in these things and perform rituals and dedicate themselves to deities b/c it helps explain the world. it helps explain sufferings, joys, etc. it is an explanation for the world and why humans are here and what we do, etc. people have faith b/c it is a comforting explanation (or if you're a buddhist, a suffering explanation hahA.)

now, back to your question after giving context: why do some people believe this still?

it's...complicated. technology is different across the world and not everyone has the same education, so they don't know "any better" about what that 16% may think. it's also not right to strip people of their beliefs in place of new ones (see: the spanish conquistadors in the new world back in the day). faith is faith, there is no proven anything you just have to be faithful to get what is promised, and people follow that like they have for thousands of years. it's also part of culture for some people, especially in hinduism (although not so much anymore) the caste system was a fairly big deal. islam still controls nations, b/c thats what people believe in and always have for generations and generations. you must remember that some people do not see the world the same way, and do not realize that there is much more out there than what they are taught. there are probably some believers in (for example) buddhism that do not understand christianity. it's all a preferred method of faith. we can't change that, b/c truthfully, these abstract ideas of symbolic faith is part of what makes us human.

just remember that religion helps people explain the world, and that's why those 84% believe in it, among other reasons listed above.

if you have any questions ask and ill do my best sorry if i didnt fully answer i was in a bit of a rush o/

 

You hate how laws are always changing? Should they be static? What's a good legal system in your view?

And yeah I guess maybe bank fraud can be conveyed as theft. What about minimum wage violations? DDoSing? Bribery? Pollution laws? The Bible doesn't nearly cover all the laws we have today. If we just go by the Bible, things would get bad quickly.

 

aaaaand they're off again
unwatch thread while you still can

 

im concerned about gehenna sometimes