Perhaps we will get a real answer #Soon

We've have 8 staff demoted/resigned in ironically the shortest month, Feburary. Leaving war with 3 staff (one of them is on some break, so 2 you can say, the other two a little inactive, so idk), warz with 5 staff (with two being inactive so 3 and one working with school (understandable lol)) and 3 staff for Wild West (2 inactive so 1..yayy.....) and build with 2 staff members.

 

To be fair the question in the screenshot is somewhat of a private matter, and his demotion was probably because of multiple reasons.
But in other aspects as update plans and such it would be nice to get more info.

Edited cus previous message may seemed rude.

 

Based on the screenshot, it looks like you were asking a question regarding a ban. Most servers keep that kind of stuff private. I don't see what's wrong in putty's reply.

 

I think we could all be much clearer and transparent with the community but the rules on what we're allowed to share and not share aren't too clear so I assume most of us just verge of the side of caution and don't clear up anything which is frustrating for us and the community.

 

Community: Demote inactive staff members!!!!
*we demote a few inactive staff members*
You: There are not enough staff members anymore!!! Rip Brawl!

Not sure what we are supposed to do anymore.

On a more serious note: Many of the people who resigned, resigned because they do not have enough time to stay active as a staff member. This has nothing to do with Brawl and the amount of staff members has always fluctuated without much of an effect. I also doubt that demoting inactive staff members has much of an influence on staff presence on the servers. Finally, we did not only demote staff members, we also accepted two new staff members yesterday.

We have always kept demotion reasons confidential because they only concern the staff member that was demoted. If you want to know the reason, ask the demoted staff member and it is their decision if they want to tell you. We are still not going to discuss them with anyone but the demoted staff member.

I also don't see how making demotion reasons public would help to make Brawl run "more efficiently".

Having leakers in the staff chat makes us even more worried about confidential information and unfortunately it also leads to us sharing less and less information with the staff team, because of the fear of it getting leaked. Which is very unfair for the majority of the staff members who do not leak anything.

So there is your answer: We do not share demotion details because we consider them private information only concerning the demoted and having leakers in staff chat does not change anything about this.

Neither do we.


In conclusion: Yes, we might need to share more information about plans and planned updates with the community and we will try to do that. We just don't want to create any false hopes, because our plans frequently change as we adjust them to the circumstances.
However, demotion reasons are not really connected to this issue as far as I am concerned and we will not change our position on their confidentiality.

 

I did not "ignore the first half of the PMed conversation" - it simply doesn't change anything. We are still not going to confirm or deny anything about the demotion reasons and we are still not going to discuss them with anyone but the demoted staff member.

Not sure why you are criticizing us for something you know nothing about. You do not know anything about any evidence we had or did not have, yet you claim the demotion is false.

I don't see the connection between confidentiality being important and not being able to find out who is leaking. And if finding out who is leaking is so easy, please enlighten us. And keep in mind that we would need actual reliable evidence, we can't demote someone based on rumors.

As I said above, we are still not going to discuss the demotion reasons. By not responding I simply prove that we stick to this guideline and nothing else. Don't mis-interpret our refusal to reveal private information as not having that information.
And we are going to show evidence to the person we demoted - if they want it, which Fuiji has not asked for yet.


In conclusion: Please stop claiming the worst only because you do not know the details.

 

Look let’s be real the entire staff thing is to do with the higher ups pride. Once they act upon something they won’t undo it as it makes them look stupid. The only time I’ve ever seen them go back on something serious was with my demotion that they turned into a ‘2 week suspension’ which was me doing something I was told I was allowed to do. It’s a lost cause and to be honest I don’t understand why anyone even cares anymore. The server is ran so poorly and should be sold to someone who actually cares and wants the better for their community. I mean seriously why in the **** did you even try to create another server when you can’t even run one, lmao.

 

Unfortunately the same problems have been occurring for ages now. I was saying the same **** last year and things have just gone even farther downhill. I'm not going to start a flame war but I think it's fairly obvious where most of the blame falls, and unfortunately I don't think things will ever change. It really is sad though, because there are some talented individuals who will never be able to but their ideas to work here because of the issues you mentioned. Brawl is just shooting itself in the foot in all honesty when a lot of people are bringing valuable, realistic ideas to the table. Really unfortunate

 

My mistake, I forgot about the inactive staff members at the time I posted, there have been 8 staff demoted/resigned in the two recent months, and 4 or 5 of them being mostly active. From the beginning of September, there have been 7 promoted staff and 14 staff resignations (or 13 since one was inactive). Meaning that the amount of staff members resigned is beating staff members promoted. I don't know how to fix it, but I'm sure others might have an idea.

 

just wait. good staff don't materialize out of thin air. It's better to have a small but dedicated and fair staff team than a large and abusive one

and honestly, details around demotions should be kept private imo. If the person demoted wants to tell everyone, then so be it. Transparency around demotions is a whole different thing. However, if the person demoted challenges and doesn't get a clear answer or proof, i think thats stupid

 

It might just be some personal experience I've had, but when I was a Mod+ on another server I was in part responsible for the staff team due to my fluent English and German skills. I had to deal with some extremely weird people and some pretty sad cases. I can honestly understand where Roke etc. are coming from when they say they'd prefer a smaller team that actually cares and doesn't do stupid s**t rather than a large and complicated team with the high propensity of mistakes and general issues.

With Brawl's current strategy of reducing the amount of extremely inactive staff members this is being improved upon and I honestly think that this "forces" activity/actual reasons, shall we say.
While I don't fully know the reasoning behind Fuiji's sudden demotion - keep in mind that @Removers was also (in my mind) falsely demoted for (from what I saw, there may be more, private evidence that needs to stay anonymous) false or inaccurate evidence, I mean for God's sake the guy wasn't even banned afterward, so why even bother demoting him?

 

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