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How the staff team feels about the WildWest community and how much they care for the server.

Discussion in 'Wild West' started by FearTheDoggos, Mar 2, 2018.

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Do Brawl staff care about WildWest?

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  2. No.

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  1. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Woops, I meant Vaetna with that post, sorry if I didn't make that clear enough xd
     
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  2. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    Gonna put this broad before anyone else makes themselves look desperate. If they didn't care, it'd be gone. Just because they don't go out of their way to do what they want doesn't mean they don't care. Now I do wish they'd have the same passion as a few of us, but we can't force that into them, all we can do as a community is bring it into the staff team. Making post like this does nothing but waste time and answers zero questions.

    Click to view imgur album!

    That look like mostly alts? It takes more than just the effort of the staff.
     
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  3. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    I am not returning for staff here. I am not sure what makes you seem to think I have interest in helping people who have no wish or interest in being helped. Posts like this ^ are why people are still leaving the server. Whenever someone posts something truthful people spout bs reasons for not actually confronting the problems.
    It is a "waste of time" to confront the fact that not one example of the staff team caring for WildWest can be shown in over 4 months?
    I am still waiting for you to show me something that proves they care.

    Showing me a tab of two bars at this time means nothing. Take a look at the actual statistics of new players and retention rates.
    Never been lower.
     
  4. Droiid

    Droiid Shutdown

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    Still not siding with anyone here, but seeing as this thread isn't going anywhere, shouldn't you request a lock? It seems like a good idea to end any flame war before it goes on further. Also the majority of comments on this thread weren't necessarily on topic.
     
  5. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Which is why you re-applied, then became incredibly defensive when people said the slightest thing against you. You care a lot about the position, there's no doubt about it.

    Even though I'm not a fan of @tallscot, his posts are truthful. He makes good points. You're legit flaming me and others because you were denied, and considering what you said on your app and on your profile, it was pretty clear as to why and what.
    As Tom already stated - there are things in the background that you don't know about, and there is a reason for devs investing time into other gamemodes - WW doesn't have enough income. Learn to code and then you may complain that not enough is being done. With a HUGE framework of the type that Brawl's network is, changing something takes a lot of time, patience, care, and most of all it needs to be useful.
     
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  6. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    How about 3 bars?
     
  7. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    It's clear you haven't acknowledged anything I said in my post. I'd appreciate you read it, especially considering this thread is about how staff members "don't care". Turning a blind eye to evidence that staff care in the very thread you're complaining about it does not make you look credible.
     
  8. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    There are more examples of hypocrisy in this response than in The Virtues of Mendacity and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn combined. I'll address them in large chunks so I don't have to sit here for the next day and a half.
    I don't see how it's "funny". Not one of the staff members that work here have to. They aren't paid to staff and they have little to no incentive to continue doing so. They're here because they want to be here, and if you can't respect that and continue giving them a harder time than necessary, then you should honestly leave.

    Not long ago, you were staff on Wild West. You handled the workload of the average Wild West SMod, including the denial/acceptance of sheriff applications, idea threads, etc etc. What did you actually achieve in that time, though? Nothing - a bunch of trashed ideas because Brawl couldn't muster enough developing time. For a period, you took responsibility - which everyone respected. Then, you tossed everything to your successor when you resigned. To make matters worse, you actually berated the Wild West staff team for doing nothing when you full well knew that nothing could be done.

    It's true, I haven't played consistently since last year. Nonetheless, I was staff for nine months. I know how updates work- most of the time they don't. What's actually funny is how extreme your hypocrisy is. You got nothing done as your time as staff(which wasn't entirely your fault), but you expect the staff team to push out updates when you're not on the team? Yes, apparently you do for whatever reason.
    Oh, but it does! It's quite obvious when you were posting stuff like, "If you leak or betray the staff team, I have no reason to speak or acknowledge you," and the classic, "For those of you who leak from staff slack, I hope you see this. When you are caught, our friendships end. As do many others of yours."

    Quite the statement coming from one who was caught leaking "sensitive" information. You deny it, but you literally do so in this thread when you claimed "Putty has stated a numerous amount of times that he has no plans of hiring more developers."
    Yes, but you can call that group, community, or friend "family" when you have a reputation to upkeep?
    No, you just happen to be one of the most fake people I've met. Most people apply for staff because, guess what? They want to help the server. Judging from your response and tendency to "change attitudes", you obviously didn't have anything remotely close to that mentality when you applied.
    What topic? We all know that the Wild West team can't do anything except bring suggestions to the higher-ups, which have a fraction of a percent of being enacted. That doesn't give anyone the implication that they "don't care".
    Oh hey, guess what? You also had an application up, and you defended the staff team quite consistenly. Not to mention the numerous threads you made offering suggestions to the server, which suddenly stopped when your staff application was denied(coincidence?).

    If you want proof they care, they've set aside spare time so they could be in-game, on forums, discord, and teamspeak. You not getting your way doesn't mean that "they don't care". If you don't want to be treated like an "ignorant idiot", don't act like one.
     
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  9. muslim_vin

    muslim_vin Well-Known Member

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    sorry that a bunch of 30 year olds aren't devoting their whole entire lives to a crappy minecraft server

    because you have "anime lover" in your name i don't support of anything you wrote
     
  10. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    The only people who get money from Brawl is chickenputty and the developers. Putty made no money from Brawl for years yet still stayed, the developers are skilled enough to get a job with much better pay. Not to mention the fact that Brawl is not making a profit at the moment.
     
  11. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    you where staff for some of this time, where you not? why instead of resigning then complaining about what people do for Wild West, why not stay and actually help it? verlyn and socool are putting it pretty perfectly, not the staff teams fault y’all are ignorant as hell. espec you @Vaetna , actually take time to read what people are saying OR try and help instead of complaining constantly?
     
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  12. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    because he'd rather spend his money on other things, such as shoes

    like the server is going to die if more devs aren't hired. I don't understand what makes this decision so hard.
     
  13. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    You are an HG staff member. H.G. This is directed towards the WILD WEST staff team. No offense to you because I know you will defend HG tooth and nail, but let’s be honest here; how many players does HG get on average compared to Wild West?

    The community doesn’t give a flying crap if the current work being done has been in the work for months. During those months, the game modes that are experiencing a lack of content will go stale and the playerbase will move on. You can’t just devote time to things the community isn’t seeing, or else they will lose faith in the staff and administrative team as a whole.

    I’m not going to even touch on my demotion reason at this point because that would bring out a side of me I would prefer not to show, especially towards you SoCool, who I deeply respect. But, if I was only demoted for leaking from Slack, then why were me and @TheMafias permanently banned from the forums for “misusing forums?”
     
  14. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    I'm not even surprised that half the staff don't really care at this point

    higher ups will literally track people's IP addresses down but they can't implement a screenshare protocol because it's "an invasion of privacy" smh this server's done for
     
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  15. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    *sigh* So what?
    If he's a HG staff member, does that somehow make him less important in your eyes? Come to the point, does that make anyone from a different gamemode somehow less valid?
    Considering how much effort was put into WW, I honestly don't think you can complain. Tom made it pretty clear - HG has not gotten any updates (other than one small change in the pre-game lobby) in nearly 2 years, WW will get an update at some point in the future. There's no point in flaming staff for having some behind-the-scenes stuff going on most of the time. Every staff team has that, and more transparency (which is what you want, from what I understood) doesn't mean a better server.
     
  16. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    To address the OP and the OP only (Don’t get me started on Vaetna’s comment about leaking from staff chat. I’d steal the whole Dead Sea to respond to that one.) I’ve stated multiple times how to fix the game, and staff members have not listened.

    - Rework the economy from scratch so you at least have something you can (or just won’t) work on.
    - Suck it up and get another coder Putty.
    - Reset the game and implement new changes.

    You have just successfully made a decent attempt at restoring and rebalancing your gamemode. Congratulations!

    No, I actually think that SoCool is one of the most significant staff members. If he does something to help Wild West, more power to him. If he doesn’t, then that’s just great as well! He is listed under HG. He is not required to try and better the Wild West server, regardless whether he is familiar with it or not. I’m solely directing this at the Wild West staff team.
     
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  17. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    The issue is, they haven't logged in. Pay attention to what is actually happening. Not even going to bother talking to you anymore.
    Putty fully doxed multiple players recently, yet claims that screen sharing is against their privacy LOL.
    Logic. He literally sent Tyler's full dox to him thinking tyler did something bad.

    How about the one bar since two sheriffs logged in and fought them one time?

    You literally just spewed a wall of text without ever once doing what the thread was meant for.
    Where have you shown that the Brawl staff team cares for ww? All you have done is show arguments as to why they shouldn't have to.

    Perhaps you could actually take a look at what has happened recently instead of speaking of stuff when you have no clue what is going on? If you want a further explanation of everything I would be more than happy to do so in a PM.

    Now, towards everyone, I do not care how much you hate or flame me, just do it in PMs or on my profile. Thanks. I have already stated that I am not going for staff here anymore, that should be the end of it. Whether or not you claim I am a hypocrite or whatever, I really could not care less. If you can't answer the thread or speak civilly, leave.
    Stop the flame on the thread we do not want this locked. Thank you.
    Still waiting for someone to please, show me an example (2 pages later and not one person has shown one) of how they have shown they care for WildWest.
     
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  18. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Cmon man :/ I'm sad to see this reaction from you as I really did respect your dedication and passion for ww. I know your intentions are good for the server but this post hating on the staff isn't a good decision. I get you're upset and you're allowed to be but this isnt the right way to handle things. I know I made similar mistakes when I was smod, getting overly upset for my passion on raid when needed things couldn't get done, but I've realized it doesn't help things at all. If YOU really care about ww, be the one to step up and take actions that will actually help it - complaining about those who you feel dont do enough is useless - BE THE CHANGE (Cheesy ending ik ik)
     
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  19. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Still waiting for an example. Its quite clear that there will be none.
    Take a quick look at the votes on the poll for me. Look who voted no. Its pretty self explanatory.
     
  20. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    If one of the Wild West staff members could please bring something to the conversation, that would be great. Negative or positive, I don’t think anybody really cares. Anything to show that you are listening or that we are being heard.
     
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