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Teaming Vs Targeting

Discussion in 'KitBrawl' started by Ry23an, May 12, 2018.

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  1. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Should players be banned for targeting?

    In kitpvp most target when low on soup or dislike a person

    I don't need to explain teaming vs targeting

    Example:
     
  2. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    no. targeting is going to happen. The same thing was brought up in ctf and it was turned down. Don't see why this should be any different.
     
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  3. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Just to clarify I do think it should be against the rules
     
  4. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Personally I do not think that it should be against the rules. What you did in the video was 2v1ing (because you and the other guy weren’t hitting each other and both focusing Tom) which is against the rules.
     
  5. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    The one thing we can agree on is that the title of the video is true
     
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  6. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    'Teaming in FFA is now punishable.

    Excessive teaming will now be punishable, for up to a 20 minute temporary ban. Both players that team up on someone will receive a punishment. However, if you are someone that is continuously breaking this rule though, you are at risk of receiving stricter, and longer punishments.

    What is considered teaming though? If you are explicitly ganging up on, or you are targeting a player with a teammate of yours, you are likely to be punished for this rule.
    However, we will allow truces to some degree. You can choose to have a truce which is a player you choose not to attack. We will not punish for simply not attacking someone, however if you then take it to 2v1ing someone with that truce, you cross the line at which is acceptable, and you are likely to be punished.'

    'If there is any doubt whether people are teaming or not, no punishment will be given.'

    In kitpvp you get soup from kills, when you are low on soup you are going to target bad players/players low on soup.
    Tell me who was lower on soup, earthrocker who just spawned in or socool who was drained.
    Also you can't just keep switching targets because another player hits them too. (again back to needing to kill for soup)
    The rule currently is about excessive teaming and not about targeting.

    This discussion is not about my ban nor is it a bad appeal (don't lock it)
     
  7. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    You don't get soups for the kill, you get it for the amount of damage dealt to a player that dies. So it's possible to switch and get soups at the same time.
     
  8. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    How do you expect the player to die? So you expect player to wait till some one steals your kill?
    Cummon bro use logic
     
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    He dies because the other one jumps in and attacks him?
     
  10. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Imo targetting is fine and is what was happening in the video. The rule of teaming is generally quite fuzzy though and should only be used in extreme cases imo. Its purely opinion and I don't think its fair to punish it when you are a staff member fighting, as not everything can be observed and its not uncommon for everyone to target the staff nember pvping. Just my 2¢
     
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  11. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    And you stand and watch with no soup if you get jumped, and as you said the more damage you do the more soup you get... Killing them would give you more soup
     
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  12. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    As I've said to you for like, the 5th time now, targetting does not allow you to 2v1 someone (which is what clearly happened in the video).
     
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  13. hayns

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    just /spawn if you are low on soup
     
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  14. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    You start with 8, unless you are fighting noob's nearly every fight will drain your soups before you get the kill
     
  15. hayns

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    you don’t really need soups tbh, if some one kills you then oh well, just comeback and keep fighting
     
  16. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    You're right. The rules we made said it was only for excessive 2v1ing. Examples could be targetting, since it can get a bit excessive running around with 2 people behind you teaming up on you.

    https://www.brawl.com/threads/67158/
     
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    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I agree that it can get excessive if you are directly 2v1ing for a full fight or protecting /helping truces in multiple fights
    But in what happened in my video I never tried to help anyone( if I was teamed with earth I would have punched him towards socool instead of hitting him away with a sword or helped him in the centre fight at the start of the video) the damage it showed when I killed socool should be enough to show it wasn't an excessive 2v1 not even to mention the guy hitting me in the back
     
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  18. ImJustWorse

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    Thank you for the input because I have done this before.
     
  19. BrosBeforeHoes_

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    What if he wasn't teaming I like to kill people but some like to join in. Plus the others were tryi,g to kill him. Imo I dont really think that's teaming
     
  20. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    what? Logic? Socool doesn't understand that

    what? Logic? Socool doesn't understand that
     
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