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Idea Grace-Tracking periods

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Narrations, Mar 20, 2019.

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  1. Narrations

    Narrations New Member

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    What I have seen countless times on raid, is when people ( like myself) stay up way late, while nobody is online, and build bases. This isn't scummy considering how impossible it is during the active week and day times. The problem I see is that many people can't get started, or make bases because of "bountys" on their heads. Known players or players with ranks tend to get tracked more, and won't have as much room to make bases as others. Also considering the fact that it takes a single tracking player to scare everyone else off.

    Note: To keep in mind; however, is the necessity of tracking in raid. Tracking is a fundamental mechanic in raid and should not be Nerfed, but I think a 1h grace period will not affect tracking as much as it affects/ offers breathing room for players needing to rebuild bases or other costly warps. Tracking is not mainly during the building of bases, typically building a base takes time, so even if someone tracks that, it won't seem better then an afk.

    Basically, every Sunday (doesn't have to be Sunday, personally I think this works best) we turn off all tracking for 1h. 2h after the end event, when 95% of raid action for that week has fizzed away, we allow safe repairing for all players, in what I think is a relatively good time. I do not support any sort of Nerf on tracking during any events, many raids are obtained during Koths, but I still feel the need for a grace period in raid is extremely high.

    I'm EinfacheSpur14 btw
     
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  2. Twhat

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  3. Carnotauros

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    I think once every week is too much, maybe every second week would be more fitting.
    Reasoning?
     
  4. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Holy **** what is this get good Einfache spur same for skid. Alting all the time and logging off as soon as i get online every day the same holy **** this gamemode is called RAID for a reason
     
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  5. CoCaptainBlue

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  6. Colonel_Graff

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    Make it a purchaseable “booster”.

    +1000 to negate the folks above
     
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  7. Narrations

    Narrations New Member

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    @CalledRainer i feel like your making this personal. If you read what i said you would see my intentions aren't to nerf tracking. As you know, my main thing on raid is tracking also. My point is that a grace period is needed to rebuild, not stop people from tracking. I also think @Colonel_Graff making this a buy able thing is just adding raid to a pay to win category. That would nerf tracking, and make rich folks just buy there way to safety.
     
  8. Colonel_Graff

    Colonel_Graff http://www.brawl.com/games/ctf/lookup/188857/

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    It’s a server boost, the entire server would benefit. It’s not Pay2Win. Also, players who track would use the time to build trackers if they were smart, so both sides benefit.
     
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    wouldnt mind time to storing stuff fixing bases or grinding, or mining. so i think players could somewhat benefit from this
     
  10. CalledRainer

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    Hah your main thing is tracking. if you even knew how to track you wouldnt suggest such a thing as its an absolute overkill to tracking. Plus you didnt raid a single good warp in the past 2 maps.
    What do you think when everyone will warp to their vaults?
     
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  11. CoCaptainBlue

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    I do want this, but I feel is it the right thing to add? It just means people can do thier sensative things without being tracked so honestly if you know how to warp your vault has an even lower percentage chance to get tracked

    100% agreed

    and can I just say LOL.

    You cant seriously think having it as a booster makes it pay to win.

    I went to the nether and I killed pigmen. I used mob dropbs booster and in the end I got 2k gold in 3 days. Pay to win???

    What about if I had farmed obby using a haste booster instead and given it to people to make trackers? Pay to win????

    Now even if I had grinded In that time and got OP p4, Is that pay to win?

    No its not. its there and eveyone can use it

    If you miss it or can't make it, its not ones fault but yours and (irl issues) just liek if you miss koth or any other event.

    yeah, but we dont want it to be used too often. Keeping it with the 2 weekly time I would sugest havign a buyable booster but only usable on one day or a certain time of day every 2 weeks
     
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  12. Colonel_Graff

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    There’s two sides to this coin. The first is that if someone is constantly buying tracker blocks, then the server is making bank. And if no one is buying tracker blockers, then it’s moot.

    I personally *have* a warp or two I care about and would gladly buy a 1 hour tracker block to protect it/them. (One may be a gold farm I can’t use if there’s too many people on, and the other is equally money-generating for me.) And if people want to build bigger trackers while the block is up, more power to them.
     
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  13. CoCaptainBlue

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    I do too and maybe it will help us all if this is added. But we have to litmit the use some how to stop people buying them all the time. Like suggested 2every 2 weeks on a sunday
     
  14. CalledRainer

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    No its complete BULLCrap. Then i will build a vault where i put all my p4 except maybe 4 sets and i only go there when there is a booster. My vault rn to which i warp quite ofen doesnt get raided at all meaning that its too easy already.

    MAKE TRACKING EASIER NOT HARDER. Make obby break faster even without booster making it easier to get fullmap.
     
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  15. CoCaptainBlue

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    exactly. Having this is a good thing for everyone but it will just ruin raid! example: What CalledRainer said
     
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    Whatcthe **** 1 message ago you said there should be some kind of grace period now not decide what you want and then post it.
     
  17. CoCaptainBlue

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    ok I havent been clear. I dont like the idea as I said it will ruin raid. But becuase others here would like it i have been trying to make them agree on the idea where its used as less aspossible. In the event it was added. We will just have to see who else comments and what they think
     
  18. CalledRainer

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    If there is even 1 minute grace period a week raid is dead. This doent have to be discussed. If peoole dont want to get tracked they can play factions or hg.
     
  19. Colonel_Graff

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    Meh they’ll just be like me and log on when you or @EinfacheSpur14 isn’t on.

    Or they’ll be like me and have tons of disposable warps

    Or they’ll be like me and spend 95% of the time traveling the map

    Or they’ll be like me and use shop as a vault (with the fee)

    The epitome of Raid is not to track, but rather to not be worth tracking.
     
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  20. KeekerBoi

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    Heres the thing @CalledRainer, and yes i got my forums account back, Tracking cannot ever be nerfed enough that the game is safe for everyone. Plenty of tricks can be used that will get you bases. I understand you track and all, but not only have you never given a specific reason for how a 1h grace period is too op, but you don't understand the implications of a simple 1h grace time. For one, an hour a week of a grace period won't go for everyone, not everyone will be able to use it. Secondly, 1h is not enough to do a massive amount of grinding or base moving. Its enough to move 1-5 bases or so. But the best part is that because its only weekly, that is too far for anyone to constantly shift their bases around in peace. If you cannot raid a base in 7 days, I would say its only fair you must narrow that base again. there are many reasons why a 1h safe period is not as powerful as you think, I'd be glad to publicly discuss it with you if you want.

    @CoCaptainBlue heres the thing. All the legit boosters you mentioned have 1 thing in common, they require hard work to be used. When it comes to a booster that disables tracking, thats ridiculous. Its auto, so you don't need to work to use it (making bases is some work sure but not real work, does not take hours). + the chances are we will have entire teams using tons of boosters for tracking constantly whenever they need to make warps. @Carnotauros I think your right about 2 weeks, 1-2 weeks only for 1h would work. Maybe 30minutes a week even.

    @CalledRainer heres my final statement. You say you would warp to your vault only when the booster is on? fair point for you. But the thing with that is that if this is a per 2 week event, you cannot tell me that everyone will just miss a Koth every 2 weeks and survive on 1 set per 2 weeks. What about p4 fights? end events? Koth? the whole purpose of this is to be able to make bases in peace, not dip in and grab another set or two for Koths.
     
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