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Idea Problems with Koth? Problems with teams

Discussion in 'Raid' started by KeekerBoi, Mar 23, 2019.

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  1. KeekerBoi

    KeekerBoi Active Member

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    5-1 (now 5-2 gg Mel0n) on Koths had many people mad at Sub. From lebronjames0 (2nd on baltop in raid) he said this "I hate anyone in Sub" (exact quote). When i asked him why, his clear reason was because of Koths. We have won many Koths on map 5 and continuously dominate. The problem seems clear, Sub is too overpowered, or Koth is just not fair. I completely disagree. Heres the thing I have noticed: Organization. Teams like Skid do not come on a lot, many times they come totally unprepared. Teams like Mel0n (not this Koth) have avoided Koth all together, and can't seem to put up fights. I will say;however, we have not had easy Koths, we have lost 2 Koths. but only because our team could not make it. The Unorganized of the other 2 top teams Skid and Mel0n is the main reason of 2 for their defeat. Some fights they bring 2 people, some they come without any armor. Koth would be fun, of these 2 teams step it up. Get more active, maybe train at pvp. *Raid is not just a tracking game mode, PvP is fundamental and important too. The second reason Sub has dominated is because of preparation. As mentioned above, these teams often come to Koths with little to no armor in relation to the max (or cap on that Koths armor restrictions). This is a huge problem as p1 diamond vs p4 diamond is extremely different. In my opinion, Sub has highly skilled players, so for Koths to be challenging (and fun) these two teams and all others need to A. organize your teams. Stop splitting into temp teams and not coming to Koths. And B. start grinding your armor, and be ready a night before Koth to come give Sub a good fight!
     
  2. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    I have been organizing my team a lot recently and we will most likely step up a bit soon. Stay prepared :wink:.
     
  3. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Its neither a problem of koth nor a problem of skid or melon its brawls degenerated staff(some) who seem unable to advertise a map before it releases. Hence raid doesnt have enough players. And then of course when the 5 greates pvpees join 1 team it already impossible but that not the initial problem.

    @EinfacheSpur14 if you are so clever and know how it has to be done why dont you leave sub and try it on your own? I know its easy to join the strongest.

    If you cant beat the then you join them but thats for the loosers like you

    And your braghing about how great sub is when 99% of the work was dont by your mates not bby you. Inkilled you 4 times at koth and your eZ your always just dropping not much of a help if you would ask me
     
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  4. KeekerBoi

    KeekerBoi Active Member

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    @CalledRainer thats exactly my point here. You said "And then of course when the 5 greates pvpees join 1 team it already impossible but that not the initial problem." You again, like many others, attempt to throw a lot of the blame on us. You need to understand 1 thing, it isn't our fault for Koths. We aren't unbeatable and you should know this. If you don't win a Koth, at least organize yourselves enough to put up a fight, thats all.

    I don't know what you're saying in the rest, can you fix that message then ill respond to that
     
  5. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Not enough players to get enough decent players. Sub hat 15 potential players all have p4 team melon skid and Manta together have 15 players with p4 a third of them beeing not good 2/3rds beeging in teams that fight each other.
     
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  6. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    The problem is that everyone doe'snt have time and that Sub is almost never online so you can't track them to get thier p4 they're only online for koth. 2nd We have good enough loot but its not worth it since Sub only are pvpers (No offense but thier trash in everything else (My lvl)) And if Sub dos'nt have enough players they just invite randoms from KitPvP i mean half thier team are from kitpvp.

    I don't know what you're saying in the rest, can you fix that message then ill respond to that[/QUOTE]
    We are organized lol
     
  7. KeekerBoi

    KeekerBoi Active Member

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    @TheMel0n heres the thing though. You said "No offense but their trash in everything else". This cannot be true, many of us including Tuumai, me, Exaggeration, etc can completely track, have full maps and aren't just PvPers. We have been on raids this map, and will do more as more preparations are done. Another thing you mention is Sub only logging on to Koths. This for sure is not true, I'm practically always online, qiw (Cego), and others are very active during the week. In fact, I think Sub has members far more active then the team Mel0ns members. I think that the problem is not within Sub's excessive PvP skill, I think its the other teams lack of effort in effectively improving some of their players PvP skill all in all. Do not blame a team for winning.
     
  8. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Always have to search the fault with the others. what?
     
  9. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    Exx is the only one i know whos good, im better than Tuumai at tracking, and you guys are rlly inactive, I have to admit that they are active on CTF and other Brawl Gamemodes but not rlly raid.
     
  10. KeekerBoi

    KeekerBoi Active Member

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    What my team has said, is that there sorta getting a little bored of raid. Maybe some more events need to be added, I'm going to start brain storming, thats my specialty xd.
     
  11. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Well-Known Member

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    Raid does nto have the player base for anything right now. Is it safe to say Skid members all quit ((basicaly) Manta members all quit. and non of who will be comming to koths. So its really now a fight between Mel0n +Manta and SuB. and anyoen left is skid is just there xD

    Advertisment is the key to get a new player base
     
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  12. KeekerBoi

    KeekerBoi Active Member

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    Ty for not blaming Sub this time. Good idea @CoCaptainBlue, use that and get more players to brawl and your teams.
     
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