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Raid Update Ideas (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Necromancer51572, Nov 21, 2019.

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Which changes would you like to see implemented? Select all that apply.

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  1. Twhat

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    When server was 1.7, i dont remember maps
     
  2. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    Hmm
    Raid the gamemode. Raid does not mean Brawl, it tends to refer to the Hardcore PvP style gamemode, since it is a 'Raiding' based gamemode. Obby gens were in minecraft for all of mcpvp and mcteams raid, though I think they were abused a bit. I would like to see AFK obby farms disabled, and then obby gens are fine by me.
     
  3. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Obby gens were never an intentional feature. It was a 1.7 Minecraft glitch, which was fixed with the 1.8 Update.

    And just like the repair cost reset glitch (which was a raid thing) glitches are not supposed to be part of the game
     
  4. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    Piggybacking off of your point- By this logic, enchanting should be full 1.8, as with repairs. The only way your logic holds water is if you are saying that the current patch is the way the gamemode should be, since it is hardcore. Similarly, minecart chests going into blocks is a glitch, and this is one glitch that has been used in the game for various reasons many times.

    My point is, just because something was once a glitch does not mean it is not a good feature for the gamemode. I would say that mining obby in the end should be replaced by redstone obby gens. The fact is, obby gens take time to build, and they need to be larger to become more efficient. So, you need to put time into making either a small, quick, inefficient gen, or a larger, time consuming, more efficient gen. Assuming you need to mine 2 dubs, and you take 30 minutes to make the generator, this increases the time per obsidian by .26 seconds. At best, this negates any haste effect you could get, and this does not account for the time to use the gen.

    I do not see why you are so strictly opposed to something that is not harmful to the gamemode in any way.
     
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  5. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    This is funny ^
    I still just use afk obby farms lol they’re so easy to build and efficient no macros no cheats

    And about koth just make the rewards like 10 books of deleting repair cost and deleting villager at spawn
     
  6. NinetyThree

    NinetyThree Active Member

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    wat?
     
  7. Twhat

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    You just need too much lava buckets
     
  8. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    They are wildly inefficient if you consider the iron needed, and the time filling a ton of lava buckets.
     
  9. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    What do you mean? Don’t you have friends / two PCs?
     
  10. NinetyThree

    NinetyThree Active Member

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    you mean 2 accounts right? you can have 2 tabs open for each account, 1 screen
     
  11. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    I think you missed the point. It isn't afk if you are filling buckets while mining, because you are limited by time away since you will use up all the lava. And if you want it to be afk for longer times, you need more buckets.
     
  12. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    I mean you can afk for 15 minutes+ with just 1 dub. So it is afk, and if you have friends online in the time being they can fill the buckets.

    Not 2 accounts, you can't have something on your mouse so you break all the time on the second acc.
     
  13. CoCaptainBlue

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    I made a whole 7 dubs of iron buckets (full of lava) didn't take much out of me... and I lost several stacks worth due to over filling my inventory when lava-ing up because I am dumb.

    But it could be seen alot I guess if the server was active

    Some mouse are designed for example my second mouse, where I can put a debit card (anything similar) in the side of the mouse and it will hold down left click ofc until lyou remove it. My keybopard also allows me to do that.
     
  14. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    Interesting.

    I'd expect that this will be less common with iron being more rare? Personally I don't care how people mine obsidian late map, because in early map, you won't be able to do this, because it takes too long to get the iron.
     
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  15. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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    After coming back im not sure how i feel about the new koths yet, the new changes that have been implemented are great but koth has a whole isnt very new player friendly. Id love to see an event that doesnt rely as much on the gear you have as much as skill... but i dont have any great ideas for this off the top of my head. I will try and think of something though. I think there should be an easier way for newer players, especially solo ones, to get their 5 warps set up and have a good amount of loot besides just "join a good team and learn that way"
     
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  16. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    I disagree with a lot of things you said, but you make some good points.

    Koth is not new player friendly. I believe the reason for this is that it is so possible for players to get ungodly rich, due to villagers partially along with gold farms. With these gone, it will be much easier for new players to compete.

    However, there is more to it. I think it is a flawed system to reward large groups with in game items. This has been discussed in my post above.

    The issue of being new-player friendly is part of the gamemode. The gamemode requires players to physically pay and get loot, so it makes more sense to favor the rich. Skill is a big factor, but if a ctf player is better than all raid players at pvp, for instance, they shouldn't be able to only play these events and win, because that makes it more like a kit server, or op factions.
     
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