WarZ Staff Conclusion

Let's try not to rant this time... Or get this locked...

All of these threads are being locked because of players moving away from the original topic. These topics may be used in discussion without veering off topic. By the way, I went through both of the previous threads and reread all of the comments, coming up with these topics that were discussed. If you have any additional topics, feel free to pm them to me.


Staff Judges People They Don't Know

Some players in the community feel like the staff judges players who apply for moderator poorly. Many players never see staff members, in game, so how are the staff members supposed to know how we act in game? Also, staff members have admitted to just "taking each other's word" on if a player is immature or not. They allow the "One time I saw him say" without any proof, and that is usually how staff is decided. What if a player gets on the wrong foot of a staff member and they aren't very nice to each other? The staff member can say that that player is not suitable for staff simply because the staff member doesn't like them. Also, players may make one remark that is immature, which could be a very old remark, and they are judge for a long time because of it. All players, including staff, make mistakes. People like @ehvahn make a rant about the community and how terrible it is and they are denied because of it. We need not to limit our judgement of players to one thing, but what they've done for the community as a whole. I suggest that we have a new method of determining if players are mature or not in game. I don't know what it is at the moment, but it needs to be changed. If there is away to view everything a player has said in game, that would be perfect.

Giving Existing Moderators the Moderator Rank on Multiple Servers

I do not find it suitable for staff members to moderate two different McBrawl servers. Instead of a staff member being 100% dedicated to one server, they are not dedicating 50% of their time to one server and 50% to the other. Instead of having two players to moderate the servers at their 10%, we allow players to split their time. If we have players that are applicable for staff, why should they be denied as other staff members are hindered as they now have the burden of two servers. It is just not sensible for staff members to split their dedication between two servers.

Staff Teaming / Staff Per Server

Lots of players find it that staff teaming and having excessive amounts of staff online the same server is not something that should be allowed. When there is more than one staff member moderating a server at a time, it holds staff back from covering more servers. When there are 4 staff members on one server, those 4 staff members are covering 10% of all the server, when they could be covering 40% of all the servers. There needs to be a rule where only two staff members can play on a server at a time. I know that staff members are people too; they have friends and want to play with them. However, if them playing with their friends hinders their job, they should not be allowed to do so.

Staff Requirements

The staff requirements for McBrawl are very simple. You need to be active on the forums, TeamSpeak 3, and in game. I feel that these requirements do not apply to WarZ though. WarZ is a server strictly based off of in game time and not so much on the forums and on TS3. Players rarely use TS3 unless they are chatting with their friends, and the WarZ rooms are often empty. Players are told that they should be on TS3 so they can talk to the community, when they can simply talk to the community in game. If 100% of the community plays the game, while only (estimated) 40% uses TS3, why should we use TS3 for one of our main sources of communication? Just because players aren't active on TS3 doesn't mean they aren't capable of being a staff member. Likewise, the WarZ forums section is often very bare. Whereas the War section is very active, WarZ is not. This makes it harder for WarZ members to get their post count up because there aren't many threads to reply to. Just because staff members don't meet the post count unwritten rule of 300, this shouldn't be the determining factor of their application.

Staff Activity

Many players find that our staff is very inactive. On the forums, staff members rarely post unless needed. In game, staff members are rarely seen. On TS3, staff members aren't rarely seen outside the staff room unless they are doing their job. Players who apply for staff are often denied for not being active on one of the three main sources, while they are usually more active than our current staff members. Almost all of the WarZ staff is inactive in game, most staff members are inactive on the forums, and a few staff members aren't active on TS3. Does the staff really have any room to judge players for not being active when they are not active in the first place? They may not meet the requirements 100%, but members who apply for staff shouldn't be denied because of this.

Staff Not Acknowledging Problems

As I have said before, there is almost an unwritten rule for staff members where they cannot talk about the server's problems. Also, when players try to point out the server's problems and suggest ideas on how to fix these problems, they are considered hateful and degrading to the server. Players who point out the server's flaws are only trying to help improve the server. So when staff members do not acknowledge the server's issues, they are only harming the server. Players and staff should both be able to point of problems, much like this post, without being considered hateful. Of course, the posts need to not turn into flame wars. I will admit that some of my posts have turned out that way so people don't reply that.

Staff Banning

I feel that moderators on WarZ need more privileges when it comes to banning hackers. Staff members cannot ban a player for over 1 hour, and they must need proof to even do so. For players like myself, it is impossible to record. I can download software to record, but if I were to try and do so in game, it would just be random jumping around every 5 seconds, making it impossible to show hacks. When players are given staff, they should be limited to their one hour ban time. However, our veterans, like @Mario, @VforVenom, and @rainywolvess should be allowed to ban players permanently without getting proof. They are obviously trusted members and wouldn't abuse this privilege.

All Staff Given WarZ Mod

As the new map comes out for WarZ in under an hour, all staff members are given the chance to moderate WarZ if they wish. This is due to the lack of staff and overload of expected players on servers 1-5 that will need help. This is relating back to staff moderating several servers, as well as staff members given free staff ranks without applying. This decision is not very smart, due to the fact that our staff members may not know much about WarZ, but they will take the rank and "help" for the free MVP. I'm tired of typing now for the past hour and a half so I'm done.

But honestly people, let's not start a flame war. Someone even keep me in line, and just write on my profile if I get out of hand. Writing at 1,300 word thread like this isn't easy, so I'd hate to see it locked.

@Skulduggery57 @edin61265 @Frsemilla @Signatured *Watch for flamewar*

 

I pm'ed rainy about people that got denied when the topic of immaturity came up. Then this happened...

It's early...

I know it possible to tackle this task, but is it really logical? If there are players fit for the job, why promote and existing moderator to buff his time?

 

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   -Putty
   
   
2. Being in game is a crucial part of being a moderator. If you aren't in game to help players, you aren't really doing your jobs. However, while they may be good moderators, the people that get denied might be good mods also.
   
   
3. Skipping
   
   
4. WarZ should be different because it is different from all of the other servers. Players rarely use the forums on WarZ, that is compared to War. If players are accepted as moderator, I'm sure they would use TS3 when they need to talk to staff. It isn't easy for players to use TS3 for WarZ, due to all the teams that are exclusive. I joined TS3 right now and there was no one for me to talk to. People are considered inactive because they don't use TS3 to talk to other players, when there is no one to talk to. They can talk to players on the forums or in game, so I think TS3 for WarZ is pointless. The only people that use TS3 are people that use it for teams, and are in private chats.
   
   
5. Basically what you're saying is that staff does not need to be active with the community unless they are needed? If staff members aren't posting, the community feels that the staff are seperate from them. This is much like TS3, where staff members only sit in the staff room. They don't reach out and communicate with others.
   
   
6. I'm not talking about the small problems on servers like maps being broken sometimes. I'm talking about the larger issues like DDoS'ing, hackers, ect. Back when macros still existed on McBrawl, the staff posted little about it to fix the problem.
   
   
7. It seems like no one trusts our moderators xD
   
   
8. I don't complain about having to many staff after complain about having to many staff, but rather the fact that we have to many staff on one server. With our current 4 moderators, all 4 of them should not be on the server. They need to be limited to 2 mods per server.

 

Not sure if good or bad thing...

 

Sorry everyone.
Lots of people asked if this could be unlocked after I decided to unlock it.
I am no longer participating in this thread, but will lock it if a flame war rises.