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Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Bluecichlid, Aug 13, 2014.

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  1. Bluecichlid

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    Hello fellow Warz players,


    As a long time player of Warz, I have been extremely disappointed by the actions and behaviour of those (donators in particular) playing the server. The abuse of donator power has always been an issue, but I’m honestly tired of it now.


    I’m taking the time to report the latest culprit, I_Like_Anus, whom, as well as friending me, promising to “team” and “not kill me”, de-friending me, and killing me and my friend, he also preceded to send me inappropriate spam via /m which was both insulting and hurtful. This violates two of the server rules (“Respect all players” and “Do not spam or use excessive capital letters”) as well as the abuse of power. As while there is no formal rule on the abuse of power, I’m sure everyone would agree that it is a given. I’m not trying to take this report onto the forums, but to raise awareness of the issue and hopefully have the staff indicate there position on the matter.


    In my time moderating large PvP server, donator abuse was never tolerated, and I hope the same principles apply here. This server is not here to babysit you, so please, show some maturity. As a donator, you standout as a member in this community, you are representing the server as well as yourself.


    Please don’t turn this thread into a hate war, everyone has differing opinions and you must respect that. Please leave any relevant feedback as you been necessary. Thank you for your time.

    Edit: Awkward moment when the first thread you made is in the wrong section! Apologies Mc-War uses for this irrelevant thread. Maybe a staff member could move this over to the Mc-Warz subforum discussion.

    Regards,

    -Blue
     
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  2. MrCowlick

    MrCowlick Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how this is really "donator abuse". It looks more like people who you trust betraying you and then being an idiot about it. There is no rule against betraying, and if you are willing to let someone that you don't know TP and friend with you, then you have to man up and take the consequences if they kill you.
     
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  3. Bluecichlid

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    Default players do not have access to the /tpa command, therefore, only donators plus can use it. Abuse if defined as "the use of something which has a bad effect or negative purpose; misue of power". To me, the /tpa commands purpose is to teleport the player to another specified player, without the intention to kill/betray the player whom you had friended and teleported too.

    I don't see this as part of the spirit of the game or a very ethical/moral action. Yes, while there is not formal rule about abuse, I don't see this as abiding by the rules either. Maybe the server rules could be updated to be more concise and precise.
     
  4. iMacro

    iMacro An Essential Meme Maker (^:

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    Not really donator abuse, or disrespecting a player unless it's the spam of inappriopiate. I'm not sure if you want him banned or generally telling us what happened. Betraying is natural
     
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  5. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    I have been betrayed once, and the dude was so....let's say random. However, I have reported 2 people for inappropriate spam, insults (such as Down syndrome). Staff didn't even care .-.
     
  6. Bluecichlid

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    Did you read my whole post.... obviously not. I clearly stated that he did send me inappriopiate spam. That issue however I'm sure will be dealt with by the staff via my report.

    I personally don't see this as a ban worthy action, however that's ultimately up to whatever the procedure the staff follow.

    If so, what does this say about our society? Why cannot we be different? Does this server have to conform to the sinful nature of the society in which we live? I think not.

    Moderating a server as large as McBrawl is always a challenge for staff. Without the proper procedures in place, reports such as spam and bullying tend to become less of an concern for staff compared with issue such as hacking. I'm sure the staff didn't necessarily "not care", but couldn't find the time and support to follow up such matters.
     
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  7. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    uuuum this is the mc-war section.
    and this is about warz :V

    if someone you do not know wants to tp to you... you should not do it... otherwise this type of stuff can happen
     
  8. Bluecichlid

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    Please, before commenting, read the full post you are replying. It can be quite tedious when I have just answered that exact comment in my first post.

    I realize this sort of stuff happens, I'm not so naive as to not discern that. However, I'm sure that I'm not the only one out there that feels as if I can trust some one once they have guaranteed my safety.
     
  9. Lord_Roke

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    You said that donors abuse their power through tping to players and then betraying and killing them.
    But betraying has nothing to do directly with the powers donators get. They can come to you faster, but I have also seen non-donors betraying other players.

    Then he spammed you in PMs with inappropriate content, which is, as you stated right, against the server rules and kick/banable. But its still not really related to the powers donators get. Also many normal players do that.

    Then you say that donors "standout" and represent the server. But I don't really believe thats true when half of a server are donors sometimes. VIP and MVP are donor ranks, you only need money to get them, so only cause you bougth that rank it does NOT mean you need to be friendly to everyone and never betray others.

    I just don't see how being a donor gives you any powers that could be abused. Betraying is part of the game on Warz, only because you donated it does not mean you need to change how you play WarZ.
    If you don't want to be betrayed by Donors (or non donors) don't let them tp or come to you.
     
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  10. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    This precisely. It's part of the game, so just don't let people tpa to you.
     
  11. LuckyPop

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    Donor abuse, I would say not. This sounds more like a betray then anything. You don't have to accept his tpa when he does tpa, I understand you being spammed in a private msg with rude and hurtful words can become annoying. So next time this happens screenshot it and go on ts or another warz server trying to find a staff member who can help you with the issue. The warz community does not the nicest people ,but every warz staff member is working hard to fix that.
     
  12. C9_Mango

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    • Spam - Doesn't add to the conversation. Use the ratings instead.
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  13. CapzMC

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    The new eula is coming soon and they've made a thread that with tokens you can buy /tpa, so this is not much to worry about until then.
     
  14. HereCreepers

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    mixed feeling. This is WarZ and you cant trust anyone. Trust me I feel your pain. I have been killed countless times by MVP players that I thought were team. I laugh so many times when I try to team with a MVP and I am clearly not firing at them and they make the sign of "team" then kill me. Its like they are afraid of a fight. Also if you are going to out a barret shot into someones head just do it if the person is not attacking you xD. Cowardly MVPs
     
  15. IronRaven

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    Please do not start a flame war.
     
  16. teawithchoco

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    Soon enough there won't be anymore donors thanks to the EULA
     
  17. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I can see your concerns Blue. Spamming is indeed a violation of our rules, however, it is considered a minor transgression and in most cases, no action will be taken against the spammer unless it is a very severe indecent. I apologize for the behavior of said individual. I can only hope that you were not deeply hurt, and can move on without allowing yourself to be hindered by negative feelings.
    Although it may not seem ethical to you, betraying is part of WarZ. It forces players to be careful of whom they choose to trust. I agree with you that it wasn't very kind of the person to teleport to you with the intention of killing you. However, you made the choice to allow him to teleport to you, and by doing so you were taking the risk that he might betray you. Be mindful that WarZ is set in an apocalypse setting. If our world were in the same predicament, there would be the same anarchy, looting and betrayal that you see in WarZ. If you think about it, it shouldn't be surprising that there is betrayal in the server. I am sorry that you were betrayed. The next time you are asked to let someone teleport to you, perhaps you should be more careful.
     
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    • Spam - Doesn't add to the conversation. Use the ratings instead.
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  19. PhantomRider22

    PhantomRider22 Active Member

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    I understand but what you don't get is that they deserve these extra perks for their pay.. They keep the community up so in return they get perks.
     
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  20. Usp45

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    What he's trying to say is how many non-donors have you seen tp'ing to people and betraying them because they can, and how many non-donors cussing people out consistently, which is part of the game anyway.
    While yes, it's bad now maybe you have learned to not easily trust people anymore.
     
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