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Rough Start

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Below_Z3ro, Oct 5, 2014.

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  1. Below_Z3ro

    Below_Z3ro Well-Known Member

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    Let's forget some of our problems here for a sec. Forget the blinkers, people with macros, and all other kinds of hackers. Pretend that hacks don't exist. If you ignore this for a second, then I believe the main problem with WarZ is that to get really good, to be able to kill other people, is caused when you have really good stuff. Now I know this is REALLY obvious, but you have to understand how this happens. The reason having MVP is so OP (and I can say from experience) is that it gives you a really good start. It allows you to tpa (good location) and have an Echest (good stuff). Boom, right there, you're already past the "rough start." But for other people, it's not that easy. You have to run all of the way to a zone 6 and loot for an hour to find full Tier 4. All the while, if a donor (or worse, a team of donors) comes on during the time your looting, then your probably dead. I'm not saying there is a way to fix this. I'm just saying that WarZ is a lot like a business. To be able to earn money, or good gear, you have to first start with money. It shows how WarZ is kind of pay to win, because without MVP, it's almost impossible to be a great player at WarZ.
     
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  2. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Which is why I was hoping the EULA would resolve this pay to win problem.
     
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  3. Below_Z3ro

    Below_Z3ro Well-Known Member

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    That's my point exactly (although I'm not sure I expressed that clearly in the thread).
     
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  4. GlobalistCuck

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    I gotta say, for the average player, it is kinda pay-to-win, but I can say from experience, I did just as well without MVP for a month or so, maybe even better. Getting alive by walking and looting up is not as difficult as people make it seem, especially in the old map Nether, it's so easy to get good loot in that place. Another benefit I found for me was that I fought harder and better when I was non-MVP because I had everything to lose.

    So yeah, for a player starting out, it is tough without MVP, but once you get to know the game, it isn't so bad. It's convenience more than anything. Maybe it would be good if new players got MVP for the first seven days or something?
     
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  5. teawithchoco

    teawithchoco Well-Known Member

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    It is pay to win, but even if you don't have it you can still beat players if you're smart enough.
     
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  6. Ritzy

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    Completely agree. Even when I was in one of the best teams I still couldn't get loot. I got full D on one server then I got wrecked by a team of 4 whilst my team was off.

    People just pay to win. I believe there should be no ranks for WarZ. Everyone should have MVP Perks and if there were ranks it would be that u start of with like full iron or something.
     
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  7. IHasSoup

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    I disagree SoStarley as some of you might remember came on this weekend but not on his og account he was on a different he clutched 4 full d's on 1 and then died he ran back and got everything he will continue to wreck with no mvp on his alt which shall not be named
     
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    But he geared himself up off his MVP account?!?!?!?
     
  9. bobssss

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    I never thought of it that way. i waste money on a game, minecraft a game made for 7 year olds. But i Still love this game and in about 7 years i hope i am still playing it if i have the time
     
  10. Javed

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    If you ask me, iron armor and barret/spas is enough to take on teams of full diamond. You just have to be smart about what you do.
     
  11. YeezyLaces

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    I have made it to 6 and back on my 120th life.
     
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  12. death_to_DERP

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    I say not pay to win because I was non donor for a long time since old map. I got kills,diamond, and tier 4. Just new players need to learn more.
     
  13. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    The only reason why I ever managed to get alive on multiple servers was because I teamed up with our staff, in practicular people like Gigga, Mr_O, VenoM and Cbsusd, Signubtured. However, after the changes to staff teams, my opinion changed on teaming and I stopped.
    I was a bloody lone wolf.
     
  14. FlamingoPvP

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    I do good without donor... Its mainly about how good you are at killing people with more loot than you adn staying alive. Also a good team.
     
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  15. tweety65

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    Yeah you dont need mvp. spawn at electro run to army get geared in 10minutes go to indust and kill full ds The tp back when you die though is op
     
  16. Japan

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    Donators are supposed to have an advantage as they are paying to have an advantage or better gameplay, the main reason warz exists is for the donations and income from players who want an advantage, why is so much crys for equality put over why non donors aren't fair compared to donors. Non donors don't keep the server running donors do, so donors should have every right to pay to win or and advantage.
     
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    Half the people on this thread are stupid.

    If you aren't MVP, you still have the skill. You can't say its not P2W because you clutched 3v1 full d and you were leather chest, because YOU STILL HAD THE SKILL. Hes talking about the "Rough start," which is how you have a Enderchest, which gives you good items OFF THE BAT, and the ability to get to that Enderchest with the teleport ability, aka getting to a zone 6.
     
  18. iEBKN

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    1. It doesn't take 2 hours to loot a whole area just for tier 4 and 2/4 in half that time. And if you take that long just to loot chest that is pretty sad to hear.

    2. Stop, just stop! When you buy MVP you basically dont have the whole WarZ server to yourself. No basically if you had MVP you would've have weights lifted off your shoulders. But when your a non donor your like a solider. Running from the over lapping team (The MVPS) and you must survive and thrive through the endless fights you would get through. Isn't that what WarZ is suppose to be about?
     
  19. C9_Mango

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    At first I hated the EULA.

    Now I freaking love it.
     
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  20. diamondman886

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    I agree, I had one of those rough starts and thanks to my alliance with team Grief Hawks (whom I know IRL), I learned how to play, now most members of team grief hawks quit but sometimes I convince them to get on. Now whats funny is that they are learning from me when they play xP
     
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