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M. Brown No Indictment

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Brutal_X, Nov 24, 2014.

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  1. C9_Mango

    C9_Mango Well-Known Member

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    Wow, you truly have awful argument skills...

    So, let me clarify... By your logic...

    This guy, who can't help the size of his body, should just get shot because his fists are lethal weapons.

    So much genius it hurts.

    At least Cb respects the opposing side...

    Wow, you truly have awful argument skills...

    So, let me clarify... By your logic...

    This guy, who can't help the size of his body, should just get shot because his fists are lethal weapons.

    So much genius it hurts.

    At least Cb respects the opposing side...
     
  2. Brutal_X

    Brutal_X Well-Known Member

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    No sir. He should be shot because he assaulted an officer who gave him several warnings to stop. I'm not quite sure what you don't understand here.
     
  3. C9_Mango

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    Several... Ok... Show me video evidence of him telling Brown to stand down 3 times. Kthnx
     
  4. Brutal_X

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    You know what he probably should have done instead of being told to stand down? Not physically assaulting an officer. Maybe if this could be understood, he wouldn't of been filled with lead. Alas, he actually did assault the cop and the cop (rightfully) shot him until dead. I think the lesson to take away from this is that attacking someone with a gun is generally not a good idea, especially when they give you chances to stand down. Inb4 you reply with some ignorant "prove he told him to stand down" comment, I would like to add that the probability of Wilson deciding to just drive around and shoot random black males without warning is probably slim to nil.
     
  5. C9_Mango

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    I absolutely love the fact that the second someone shuts down your argument you completely change the subject and start talking about some "lesson".

    The fact that you think that it's perfectly fine to go straight to a gun without even attempting to use his available mace is quite sickening, to be frank.

    And can I give you a piece of advice? Your petty little insults just make you sound like a typical raging 12 year old. Please try to learn respect before you want to be respected.
     
  6. Brutal_X

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    My argument never changed, nor am I talking about a lesson. I never insulted you directly, I called your previous comment ignorant. Please read thoroughly before posting something like that again "Kthnx"

    I linked previous videos where officers would not result to there gun and were killed in a simple traffic stop. I'm not going to ask if you know how terrifying it must be to be beaten by a man almost twice your size, so I won't ask it. I don't know how terrifying it is either, which is why I don't claim the officer was in the wrong because I could never imagine how fast his mind was racing at the time of the assault.

    Oh, and just so you know, mace proves to be ineffective at long range. It would have only been effective if they were up close and getting up close to Michael could have meant certain death, again regarding the size difference. I would also like to add that if the first couple of shots did not stop Mr.Brown, why in the hell would you think that a can of eye spray would stop him? The fact that you think pepper spray would stop something bullets wouldn't is quite hilarious, to be frank.
     
  7. C9_Mango

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    Actually, the first few bullets did stop him. The first few grazed his thumb and other parts of his body, but never fully entered him. He then ran, and was then shot.

    Also, you keep calling my request "ignorant". Do you understand what that word means? It means "Not knowing", so I if you could clarify how my request for evidence to prove your argument is "not knowing", that'd be great. Also, I do take "ignorant" as an insult, thank you very much.

    Again, the fact that you are unfazed at a teen being shot multiple times, then left out for 4 and a half hours is slightly unnerving...
     
  8. Brutal_X

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    Forensic science as proven that hes was not shot while running away. Forensic science also showed that although the victim was shoot at around 150 feet away from the car, he had appeared to be running in a forward motion when he was shot and killed. Gun powder was not found on the inside of his arms which would indicate his arms never went up, reliable eye witnesses also attest to his final charge at officer Wilson.

    I am not fazed by some thug being shot because he attempted to assault a officer. He got his just deserts in that respect. However, I would agree that leaving the body out for 4 and half hours is a bit morbid and I do not agree with that nor did I ever agree with it. I'm not sure why this happened and I couldn't explain why it did happen, but I never defended that.
     
  9. mma0648

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    Wow, i have read every single comment and don't know what to say. I think that if what @Cbsusd and @Brutal_X is saying is true, then i think that it is okay that Mr. Brown was shot.
     
  10. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    1. He did have knowledge that Brown stole cigars. See here and video here. I won't believe this until you add a source from where you got your information. 2. This argument is invalid. A 6-foot, 4-inch, 290-pound man getting shot after attacking an officer and charging at him is perfectly understandable. 3. Another invalid argument. Firstly, there is no source. Secondly, how is this relevant in any way whatsoever? Of course the KKK and Neo-Nazi's are going to be on his side. They are the racist people, but that doesn't mean Brown has any involvement with them. Also, this last one sounds a lot like a rumor the media would do a story on to get people on Brown's side.

    Once again, sounds like a rumor that the media would do a story on. There is no evidence that the boy was Brown, and it doesn't seem to fit in with what we know happened. We know for a fact Brown attacked Wilson in the cruiser, robbed a store, and was with a companion that had an arrest warrant on him.

    I highly recommend you read my post above, and if you have something else to say on this subject, provide trustworthy sources.

    Well, you must take into account that this person was beating an officer in his car. Brown could have easily knocked Wilson unconscious at that time, and if he had, Wilson would have probably been killed. In a life or death situation like that, maybe shooting was the right course of action.

    From what we know already, this does not change anything. Wilson did claim he warned Brown, but we can't prove that he did. Does that mean the Brown shouldn't have been shot? No.
    Once again, life or death situation. It is a pity that Wilson did not attempt to use his mace, however, in a situation like that, things would be moving extremely quickly. If you were being beaten inside of your car, my first thoughts would be how best to defend myself. In a life or death situation, lethal force can be used.
    Actually, he ran, then he turned back and charged the officer before being shot and killed. What was the officer supposed to do then? Pull out his Mace when his gun was already in his hand and someone 10 feet away from him is charging at him? And yes, he did charge him. There is already proof of that and I listed it in my previous post.
     
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    I don't feel like getting involved with this thread, but I just want to say something about this point:

    The reason you don't hear about police brutality against whites is not because it doesn't happen as often. That's an assumption. You want to know the main reason cases like this one gets so much attention? Media. Once the media hears of a black boy being killed by a white officer, of course they'll eat it up and turn it into the next big thing. When there's police brutality against a white person, the media doesn't blow it up nearly as much.

    Again, I probably won't respond to this thread unless I feel the need to. Just my two cents :wink:
     
  12. asvpbrvdv

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    Good point you brought that up. I remember a few months ago an autistic man was shot dead by a police in my area, it was only relevant for like 3 days and it was never the major thing on the local news.
     
  13. 18kss

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    I figured I'd put in my piece....

    If a black police officer shoots a white guy, does everyone freak out and protest? No.
    Why bring race into this?
    I mean really, the kid robbed a store and then attempted to assault the police officer. What would you do if a guy that is larger than you started running at you threateningly? :L
     
  14. Brutal_X

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    There is no indication that officer Wilson is in any way at all racist. The problem is that the media like to headhunt and make a huge deal out of anything. Why? More ratings, more cash, more everything...really. It seriously hurts when I have to listen to some of these people on CNN or FOX, I can't believe that they let people this ignorant speak in front of America.
     
  15. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I bet you that there would have been no rioting if the media wouldn't have made a huge deal out of nothing.
     
  16. iErebos

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    First of all, Michael was not much bigger than Darren. Both of them were the same height, with Michael being perhaps eighty pounds heavier. Now, I understand that is a significant weight difference. However, Michael Brown was walking down the street, he was unarmed, and he was killed 148 ft away from Darren’s SUV. And also, did you see Darren’s"injuries?" He literally had a shaving cut on his chin and claimed that he had been charged at by Michael, and that they had gotten in a “large fight.” I literally have received worse injuries falling down the stairs than what Darren had. Darren has a history of harassing other people and racial profiling (x, x, x, x.).The police in Ferguson are extremely racist and involved with the KKK. Darren Wilson might be involved with the KKK. What do I expect a police officer to do? I expect him to act lawfully and file a police report. Oh, but wait, he went against protocol and did not. In addition, it would be nearly impossible to grab Darren’s gun out of the holster. Also, oh my god!! He robbed the store! Oh wait, here is a video of Michael paying for his cigars/cigarettes. In addition, the store owner said no one called the police and nothing was stolen. Intoxicated on marijuana? That means Michael could not have even been able to react quickly to be violent. Marijuana causes dizziness, shallow breathing, and slowed reaction time. Darren Wilson literally arrested a man just for being filmed. The autopsy found that Darren shot Michael in his arm while Michael had his arms up, then continued to shoot him as he fell to the floor. In addition, Michael was far away from harming Darren. Ferguson protestors have been peacefully protesting, however cops opened fire on them with rubber bullets. This is actually against the first amendment, which allows freedom of speech and the right to assemble. Just in case you are unaware, rubber bullets can easily be lethal and/or cause serious injury. Really, all the eyewitnesses have sided with Darren? Not from all of this evidence (x, x.) No. People of color are killed by officers and face much more discrimination. In fact, they face seven times more discrimination by police officers than whites. NYPD profiling and targeting LGBT*Q people of color. Black students are given much worse punishments in school and in the criminal justice system. Albany Police: SWAT uses a poor black neighborhood to train in because it is “realistic.” A black man holding a wallet is more likely to be shot than a white man holding a gun. Really? Blacks kill blacks? Every twenty-eight hours an African American is extrajudicially executed in the US, almost one African American killed everyday by law enforcement, security guards, and/or vigilantes.

    Please read up on all of these articles for better education and for anything I missed. (x, x, x, x.)

    I am not ignorant. I have been doing my research and keeping up with everything that has been happening. Racism is alive and we cannot keep pretending it is not a problem little one. I hope these articles help you out with the misinformation you have been given.

    There's some research I've been doing, feel free to prove me wrong and such, that's just my two cents.
     
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    There are several of these sources that are not credible. For example, no reliable autopsy found Darren shot Michael with his arms in the air. The autopsy done by the federal coroner showed that Michael never raised his arms. Additionally, it has been said that the man who did the private autopsy actually was not an official doctor. He was also not even supervised by a pathologist during the autopsy with lends even less credibility to the private autopsy.
     
  19. iErebos

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    I'd prefer some sources too, sorry if I sound rude, I just want to see this.
     
  20. Brutal_X

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    It was on CNN recently tonight, I was unable to find it online yet as I'm not sure if it has been posted. I'll search often and post it when it becomes available on CNN or another website.
     
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